2024 Mustang Dark Horse vs Lotus Emira, M2, Supra, Camaro, Challenger — Cammisa Ultimate Drag Race

[RenRed2]

Well at least you're the only one that has to look at it in your garage
It better be faster in a straight line with damn near 500 herspers

Its not just a straight line one trick Beemah either lol This is US test in the South in Florida.

https://grassrootsmotorsports.com/articles/2023-bmw-m2-track-test-and-review/

Looks good to me in garage, but the Mclaren 720S of my neighbor is amazing lol!

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[Richard Truman]

12.9@111 in an MT
That's quite a bit slower than a ZF
A LOT slower actually

Alot depends on the driver /Supra tested in Japan MT VS AUTO pretty close to same

 

[PikkaGTR]

Alot depends on the driver /Supra tested in Japan MT VS AUTO pretty close to same

The 12.9 I'm not really hung up on but the 111mph is the weird part
I've seen 117+ mph trap on stock ZF cars
Not sure what was up with the top end on that MT Supra

 

[FuzzyRev]

There's a million variables in a drag race, all contributing to the final numbers. I wasn't bothered in the slightest that the MKV lost, as others have pointed out, it SHOULD lose based on its specifications and price. For the cost, those other vehicles BETTER beat the MKV, or something is very wrong. It also makes me wonder how much, if at all, a CDV delete could help the MKV shift and transfer power a wee bit faster..

 

[Sharocks]

M2 - Heinously ugly, manual sucks too, screens everywhere, heavy, sounds terrible
Emira - 130k OTD maybe for something that's gonna break because LOTUS = Lots Of Trouble Usually Serious
Mustang - Not a chance I'm spending $80k on a Mustang with screens, Ford can't even get panel gaps right, what makes you think they can get tech right

Supra is the bargain out of the bunch, hence why it's the slowest.

But, that just means more money to throw at it.

 

[FuzzyRev]

M2 - Heinously ugly, manual sucks too, screens everywhere, heavy, sounds terrible
Emira - 130k OTD maybe for something that's gonna break because LOTUS = Lots Of Problems Usually Serious
Mustang - Not a chance I'm spending $80k on a Mustang with screens, Ford can't even get panel gaps right, what makes you think they can get tech right

Supra is the bargain out of the bunch, hence why it's the slowest.

But, that just means more money to throw at it.

I hope it's not true, but I believe the sea of screens in the DH and M2 are going to age poorly, and probably look like this in twenty years...

 

[FnkDrSpok]

Lol I’m about to own the 3rd and 4th place cars.

 

[jchadwell]

After almost 40 years of manual transmissions, that 12.9 @111 screams missed shift to me. That’s about a half second and at least 5 mph slower than expected. If the surface was so dusty and traction-limited to cause it the other cars would have been similarly impacted but the weren’t. The other cars performed pretty much in line with what other tests have shown while the Supra did not. Car needs a driver mod. Still would have lost but it would have been MUCH closer.

 

[Kolme]

Pleasantly surprised by the Emira, annoyed by the poor driver mod in the Supra. But, eh, who cares really lol.

 

[J29DB03]

“He who shall be last…”

 

[swrdply400mrelay]

Other than the Dark Horse, every other car in this comparison is a price bracket and a half above the Supra.

Considering that I think it did pretty well. The M2 MSRP is $80k, The Emira starts at $130k for the V6 MT. Even the Dark horse, by the time you add the track pack is like $66k.

So, yeah it did come last but it's also the cheapest car there by a decent margin so I respect the performance it put up

MSRP for the M2 starts at ~$64k

 

[Sharocks]

After almost 40 years of manual transmissions, that 12.9 @111 screams missed shift to me. That’s about a half second and at least 5 mph slower than expected. If the surface was so dusty and traction-limited to cause it the other cars would have been similarly impacted but the weren’t. The other cars performed pretty much in line with what other tests have shown while the Supra did not. Car needs a driver mod. Still would have lost but it would have been MUCH closer.

The Supra, like the M2, has boost by gear.

However, getting the thing to shift cleanly from a dig 1-2-3 is almost not going to happen.

The ZF box does NOT like to be rushed unlike my Getrags in my M3's and my M5.

Been working on a solution to this because currently I can't drive it how I want it to drive and I blame BMW entirely for this.

 

[NicKnack]

MSRP for the M2 starts at ~$64k

You're right, that's my mistake and I'll go back and update that. I went to bmw.com to look at the prices and when I opened the builder it redirected me to BMW Canada for the builder (Since I'm in Canada), that's how I got $80k for that, but the US site does indeed show $63'200 USD.

 

[Tacoma714]

Damn it feels good to be an M2 owner LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL Ugly and heavy ugly and heavy.........so they keep saying lol

Hahaha. You have an M2 and still in the MKV forums?

 

[mdpalmer]

The 12.9 I'm not really hung up on but the 111mph is the weird part
I've seen 117+ mph trap on stock ZF cars
Not sure what was up with the top end on that MT Supra

I agree regarding the trap speed and top end. Either driver really messed up a gear change, mechanical issue, or car was down on power, etc, who knows.

Anyone with a dragy 1/4 mile run on a stock MT care to chime in? I'm going to install one at some point on my car just for fun.

FWIW I used to think the M2 and Supra was hideous, but they've grown on me. Grown on me enough that I bought a Supra Also feel the same way about the G series M3/M4.

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