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Speaking of those CUVs, SUVs and pick-up trucks, I really don't get why so many people keep getting more and more obsessed with tall riding vehicles, if they need a vehicle that can go off-roading and hauling heavy loads then I totally understand buying a BOF SUV or a pick-up truck, but most people just buy and use them for the typical daily commute on the street, and later then they start complaining about fuel and tire costs, also lets not talk about how pointless crossovers/CUVs generally are.
It’s because people feel safer in them, it’s as simple as that. My wife drives a GLC. Prefers the height, the visibility and knowing that her head won’t get taken off if she t-bones a trailer.
I on the other hand feel that a severed head was worth the expense if I was in a supra ?
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Any rumors when these are arriving at dealers? I thought it was goimg to be April?
 

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Any rumors when these are arriving at dealers? I thought it was goimg to be April?
Nissan reps and dealers have talked about launching in June. Most people think the review embargo will be lifted and final pricing/specs will be announced by April though
 
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Lol the Z won't be faster, especially with a manual, and it won't have more horsepower either. The 2021 Supra dynod stock at 388 wheel, so that's well over 400 crank.
I just joined because Im looking to pick up a Supra and this is the fourth thread Ive checked out regarding the new Z and dude you have an unhealthy hard on for shitting on Nissan, it was funny at first but after like the 17th post on the fourth different thread........

You keep referencing the manual transmission when referring to how fast the car will be, Z also comes with a Merc 9 speed which isn't a standout trans but isn't a slouch by any means, it is leagues better than the current 7spd Jatco, I have driven multiple versions of both trans. As to the point of power the Z will have "400 crank" but they put down 370-390whp stock, this is common knowledge.

Edit: The VR30 is underrated from factory as well, 375whp would be ~445 crank hp. Seems people are somehow mindblown at the 443 crank hp claim?
 
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The Supra has a better motor and trans than the upcoming Z. I’ve owned numerous Z’s in the past, and one thing I can tell you is that in terms of modding, they hit mechanical limits quickly. The MKV Supra has proven to be very stout mechanically with mostly stock components. So, if your looking for retro style, two turbos, and a guaranteed manual option….go for the Z. If you don’t want to lose on the street, get the Supra. A modded MKV Supra will be very tough to beat on the road.
This is partially true, currently you can push the stock 7sp Jatco much farther than the stock ZF8 in the Supra. There are a good amount of 650whp+ cars being beat on reliably with stock trans/motor. The old 7sp were made of glass and you couldn't push more than 450whp

The biggest difference and reason why I am switching platforms is that the Supra is cheaper, cheaper to insure, cheaper on gas and way cheaper to modify for what my intended goals are. It would cost me $19k to reach my goals with the VR30 and it would only take $14k max for the same goals on the Supra. That mostly has to do with better factory parts on the Supra and cheaper aftermarket parts

A good reference to upcoming Z vs Supra performance would be 340 vs Q50. Seems they are pretty much even with the fastest cars right around mid 9s in the 1/4
 

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I just joined because Im looking to pick up a Supra and this is the fourth thread Ive checked out regarding the new Z and dude you have an unhealthy hard on for shitting on Nissan
To be fair, this is the Supra forum. Most people here have made their decision and maybe they don't like the Nissan. But for some reason, there are people who come to this forum under the pretense of saying they are interested in the Supra only to crap on it and say how the new Z is the greatest gift the car-gods have ever begat unto us.

If someone likes the Z and hates the Supra, that's fine but why are they here?
If someone likes the Supra and hates the Z, it makes sense that they are here on the Supra forum.

Also, the quote you are replying to is from over 9 months ago. There have been some updates on the Z since then so perhaps give the guy a break.
 
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My roommate wanted the 400z (since his dad had a z car back in the day) but ended up getting the supra after more research. He has a friend, thats a GTR tech at a Nissan dealership, he said the 400z engine isn't reliable and just to get the supra. The GTR tech friend had to work on that engine all the time because after 20k miles its just unreliable. If you dont drive much or plan on selling the 400z before 20k miles then there is no problem.

Also keep in mind my GTR tech is talking about the new Infiniti engine and not anything about 370z
That is the most proposterous statement I have heard about the VR30 yet. I have one of the earliest build cars/engines and I have had ZERO issues and I am at 60k miles, tuned for 20-30k. Still on stock belts, stock turbos etc.

The problem isn't with the motor its the people that drive these cars, majority of Nissan/Infiniti customers are complete morons. They think you can shoot flames right after turning the car on and then not change the oil for 8-10k miles like Nissan advises. I change my oil 3-4 times before the service warning comes on in the car lol. Just got my oil analysis back from Blackstone and they have advised my motor is very healthy

Don't get me wrong I'm clearly selling my car for a Supra as stated in other posts but the amount of VR30 disinformation on this site is crazy
 
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To be fair, this is the Supra forum. Most people here have made their decision and maybe they don't like the Nissan. But for some reason, there are people who come to this forum under the pretense of saying they are interested in the Supra only to crap on it and say how the new Z is the greatest gift the car-gods have ever begat unto us.

If someone likes the Z and hates the Supra, that's fine but why are they here?
If someone likes the Supra and hates the Z, it makes sense that they are here on the Supra forum.

Also, the quote you are replying to is from over 9 months ago. There have been some updates on the Z since then so perhaps give the guy a break.
Not sure what you got out of my post but clearly it came across not as intended. Anybody is free to post what they want you seem to think I'm under the guise of attempting to control that, not the case. I have seen Supra owners on other threads comment the same thing I posted, I even said the posts were funny at first. Sorry the post came across differently

I came here because I'm changing platforms, only don't have one yet because the dealer sold it out from under me after accepting my offer 2 days ago and I haven't found another one to buy yet, not sure how you made your assumptions there but hey anybody can believe what they want.

Edit: Didn't realize this was a year old thread, it showed up in new threads for me. My apologies
 

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I just joined because Im looking to pick up a Supra and this is the fourth thread Ive checked out regarding the new Z and dude you have an unhealthy hard on for shitting on Nissan, it was funny at first but after like the 17th post on the fourth different thread........
Lol give us J29 owners a break too, we don't fit in with the BMW community entirely and the "real" Supra community completely lmao, we're the middle child of the situation. We get flak for being a bmw, not a real supra, being a Z4, being a car with an identity crisis, the new Z is the "supra killer", yada yada yada, etc, you get the point. it gets pretty old. We're just letting off a little steam lol.



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Not sure what you got out of my post but clearly it came across not as intended. Anybody is free to post what they want you seem to think I'm under the guise of attempting to control that, not the case. I have seen Supra owners on other threads comment the same thing I posted, I even said the posts were funny at first. Sorry the post came across differently

I came here because I'm changing platforms, only don't have one yet because the dealer sold it out from under me after accepting my offer 2 days ago and I haven't found another one to buy yet, not sure how you made your assumptions there but hey anybody can believe what they want.

Edit: Didn't realize this was a year old thread, it showed up in new threads for me. My apologies
No worries. To be clear, most of my reply wasn't necessarily directed at you. It was just to give you some context on why some members here might "have an unhealthy hard on for shitting on Nissan." Just the regular Jets vs Sharks kind of stuff. They’re here protecting our turf.

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I just joined because Im looking to pick up a Supra and this is the fourth thread Ive checked out regarding the new Z and dude you have an unhealthy hard on for shitting on Nissan, it was funny at first but after like the 17th post on the fourth different thread........

You keep referencing the manual transmission when referring to how fast the car will be, Z also comes with a Merc 9 speed which isn't a standout trans but isn't a slouch by any means, it is leagues better than the current 7spd Jatco, I have driven multiple versions of both trans. As to the point of power the Z will have "400 crank" but they put down 370-390whp stock, this is common knowledge.

Edit: The VR30 is underrated from factory as well, 375whp would be ~445 crank hp. Seems people are somehow mindblown at the 443 crank hp claim?
Lmao! You've made 4 posts and all 4 are defending the Z. Think you need to be on the sister forum fanboy. When you have multiple conversations over multiple months, thinks get repeated. Maybe try again when you actually have a Supra. "I'm gonna sell my POS that's worth $5k and buy a $55k Supra" ?
Sure. Good luck.
 
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Lmao! You've made 4 posts and all 4 are defending the Z. Think you need to be on the sister forum fanboy. When you have multiple conversations over multiple months, thinks get repeated. Maybe try again when you actually have a Supra. "I'm gonna sell my POS that's worth $5k and buy a $55k Supra" ?
Sure. Good luck.
I didn't defend the Z once, just corrected info about the powertrain. I am clearly here because the Z is hideous and I prefer to purchase the Supra, if you do not wish to have a technical discussion about the points I corrected then why bother?

This is exactly what I saw on other threads you have no technical ground to stand on so you resort to personal attacks that aren't even funny. "POS that's 5k" Can you please show me again on the doll where Nissan/Infiniti hurt you?
 
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