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Rocksandblues

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Not saying they have to always make any sort of dramatic changes, but if you look at a Porsche 911 which has evolved every 3-4 years. Every new generation you would think they couldn't make it any better, and somehow they do, while keeping up with the latest tech and features.

It's really fascinating and outright mind blowing the new Z is using the same 370Z chassis introduced in 2009.

Kind of same reason Toyota traded EV tech for BMW engines- To keep prices affordable and entry level Sports cars.

If you are Porsche you can redesign and engineer the BEST because you sell them for 100k per copy and up.

Easy win for Toyota vs Z- Superior BMW engineering vs old in house tech.

Nissan has always been the bargain basement, we will finance anyone, disposable auto maker.

They got a little smart by using Mercedes trans at least.
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I'm sure some people are... but trash talk is fun. Plus they do it as well. :p



Let's not forget the existence of the 2.0. ?
Yeah all that "Supra Killer" talk lol! Say what now??

I'd take a 2.0 over a refurbished 350z ANY DAY lol.
 

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Yeah all that "Supra Killer" talk lol! Say what now??

I'd take a 2.0 over a refurbished 350z ANY DAY lol.
I'll pass on both lol. The Z will be worth pennies over time just like every other modern-day Z. The 2.0 will also have shitty resale since no one gives a crap about them. ?
 

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I'm sure we'll have plenty to talk about once some of those Z boys actually get cars in their driveways and start coming for us down in "Mexico."
 

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Kind of same reason Toyota traded EV tech for BMW engines- To keep prices affordable and entry level Sports cars.

If you are Porsche you can redesign and engineer the BEST because you sell them for 100k per copy and up.

Easy win for Toyota vs Z- Superior BMW engineering vs old in house tech.

Nissan has always been the bargain basement, we will finance anyone, disposable auto maker.

They got a little smart by using Mercedes trans at least.
100% agree. It is funny tho, Z fanboys really would rather have a 20 year old reused platform just to say it’s “in house” or “100% Nissan” instead of a better and more modern car thru a joint venture
 

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Healthy competition, sure. Let's talk Cayman S/GTS. Z is trying to punch above it's pay grade, as we saw.
Thats a fun discussion. Our torque does give us the early legs on them in a straight line, but oh boy are they hard to keep up with on a track.
 
 








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