All-new 2023 Nissan Z makes world debut!

[C-Pike]

Cheap plastic yes, but I think the 86 has nicer seats.

That makes the Z look even worst...

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[C-Pike]

This thread reeks of insecurity LOL

Healthy competition is good for the sports car market.

I'm sure some people are... but trash talk is fun. Plus they do it as well.

Healthy competition, sure. Let's talk Cayman S/GTS. Z is trying to punch above it's pay grade, as we saw.

Let's not forget the existence of the 2.0.

 

[Rocksandblues]

Not saying they have to always make any sort of dramatic changes, but if you look at a Porsche 911 which has evolved every 3-4 years. Every new generation you would think they couldn't make it any better, and somehow they do, while keeping up with the latest tech and features.

It's really fascinating and outright mind blowing the new Z is using the same 370Z chassis introduced in 2009.

Kind of same reason Toyota traded EV tech for BMW engines- To keep prices affordable and entry level Sports cars.

If you are Porsche you can redesign and engineer the BEST because you sell them for 100k per copy and up.

Easy win for Toyota vs Z- Superior BMW engineering vs old in house tech.

Nissan has always been the bargain basement, we will finance anyone, disposable auto maker.

They got a little smart by using Mercedes trans at least.

 

[Dannyvandelft]

I'm sure some people are... but trash talk is fun. Plus they do it as well.



Let's not forget the existence of the 2.0.

Yeah all that "Supra Killer" talk lol! Say what now??

I'd take a 2.0 over a refurbished 350z ANY DAY lol.

 

[C-Pike]

Yeah all that "Supra Killer" talk lol! Say what now??

I'd take a 2.0 over a refurbished 350z ANY DAY lol.

I'll pass on both lol. The Z will be worth pennies over time just like every other modern-day Z. The 2.0 will also have shitty resale since no one gives a crap about them.

 

[vb22]

https://www.nissanzclub.com/forum/t...gia-with-modern-muscle-pov-drive-review.1146/

 

[Tsuekasa]

No more Z talk. You all are driving a "SUPRA." Nothing to be worried about...unless you drive a 2.0 then i'm sorry.

 

[Chgu]

I'm sure we'll have plenty to talk about once some of those Z boys actually get cars in their driveways and start coming for us down in "Mexico."

 

[C-Pike]

I just want the Z to fail because their biggest fanboy aka Chris Karl is a d-bag... I got kicked off of their ZCON fanboy Facebook page because they didn't like my facts on Supra vs Z...

https://www.nissanzclub.com/forum/threads/executive-zcca-director-chris-karl-on-2023-nissan-z.1164/

 

[C-Pike]

A lot of Z boys are also upset at a $50k performance model.

https://www.nissanzclub.com/forum/t...rt-49-990-performance-52-900-proto-spec.1127/

 

[Supraboi7]

Kind of same reason Toyota traded EV tech for BMW engines- To keep prices affordable and entry level Sports cars.

If you are Porsche you can redesign and engineer the BEST because you sell them for 100k per copy and up.

Easy win for Toyota vs Z- Superior BMW engineering vs old in house tech.

Nissan has always been the bargain basement, we will finance anyone, disposable auto maker.

They got a little smart by using Mercedes trans at least.

100% agree. It is funny tho, Z fanboys really would rather have a 20 year old reused platform just to say it’s “in house” or “100% Nissan” instead of a better and more modern car thru a joint venture

 

[vb22]

https://www.nissanzclub.com/forum/threads/nissan-z-hoonage-it-does-skids.1166/

 

[Allysan1027]

Healthy competition, sure. Let's talk Cayman S/GTS. Z is trying to punch above it's pay grade, as we saw.

Yeah I'm sure Cayman GTS owners think about Supras as much you do about the Z

 

[Dannyvandelft]

Yeah I'm sure Cayman GTS owners think about Supras as much you do about the Z

BMW to Porsche is a hell of a lot closer than Nissan to BMW

And Porsche owners don't think about anything but Porsche lol.

 

[type-964]

Call it a Nissan Challenger R/T.

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