All-new 2023 Nissan Z makes world debut!

[trev_rs]

This thread reeks of insecurity LOL

Healthy competition is good for the sports car market.

I was a bit insecure for the last year, but the end result is a more boring car to look at that just barely keeps up on the track.

If this the best they came up with, with a 3 year advantage. "Ok".

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[romanLegion9574]

I got passed by a GT4 yesterday at work. Damn near jizzed my pants.

I actually had similar results with my buddy's GT4. He took me to the cleaners on the track, but the Supra's torque gives it the legs on straights as well. Probably would've been closer if he went PDK instead of 6-speed.

 

[saik]

This thread reeks of insecurity LOL

Healthy competition is good for the sports car market.

Everyone is just having fun with the comparison against the SuPrA KiLlER

And ironically you mention "competition", what do you want people to say in here? Hold hands and sing Kumbaya? Everyone gets a trophy?

 

[Rocksandblues]

Track buddy recently bought a 2016 GT4. I am heavily modified for the track and he is damn close- bone stock.

They really are an almost perfect track car.

 

[Dannyvandelft]

Track buddy recently bought a 2016 GT4. I am heavily modified for the track and he is damn close- bone stock.

They really are an almost perfect track car.

Yeah I love them. Not loving the 100k markup on the GT4 RS though..

 

[Rocksandblues]

Yeah I love them. Not loving the 100k markup on the GT4 RS though..

If you haven't bought SEVERAL high end Porsches already no way are you going to get an allocation- even if you had the 200k The RS will be some rare air


Track member who is very well off (i am one of the poor members)
went to a Porsche dealership to buy a GT3. He had never been there and kind of dressed casually. They basically blew him off and said he would have to qualify, bla . bla, waiting list.

He went to a mercedes dealership- swore off Porsche- paid cash for a AMG GT S that he now tracks

 

[Dannyvandelft]

If you haven't bought SEVERAL high end Porsches already no way are you going to get an allocation- even if you had the 200k The RS will be some rare air


Track member who is very well off (i am one of the poor members)
went to a Porsche dealership to buy a GT3. He had never been there and kind of dressed casually. They basically blew him off and said he would have to qualify, bla . bla, waiting list.

He went to a mercedes dealership- swore off Porsche- paid cash for a AMG GT S that he now tracks

Yeah it sucks. I'm a year away from an 80% pay increase, and was hoping to buy a GT4 or GT4 RS, but in the current climate that's not happening. My hope is the market crashes in the near future, and I can at least pick something up close to MSRP. 100k over is just asinine.

 

[C-Pike]

Doubt it because I bet there wont be many available. Its going to be like the Supras where all you could get was a premium. Its like base models never even existed.

The difference here is the base Z is basically the equivalent of the 2.0. I suspect the production rate will be similar to if not higher than that of the 2.0.

 

[vb22]

https://www.nissanzclub.com/forum/threads/nissan-z-motoman-review-video.1188/

 

[SpeedRacer]

Jason Cammisa had some interesting comments about the new Z’s tuning and a few quirks he noticed when filming the Hagerty Z vs Supra drag race video.

https://www.nissanzclub.com/forum/t...onversation-on-new-z-in-carmudgeon-show.1198/

 

[zrk]

Jason Cammisa had some interesting comments about the new Z’s tuning and a few quirks he noticed when filming the Hagerty Z vs Supra drag race video.

https://www.nissanzclub.com/forum/t...onversation-on-new-z-in-carmudgeon-show.1198/

This shit is an hour long. You got some time stamps? lol.

 

[Rocksandblues]

I am a car nut and listened to whole thing.

Lots of subtle slams against the Z and its demographic.
I am sure a lot of those same subtle facts went right over said demographics heads
But

He thinks a lot of Z are going to be on CoPart in short order.
Lots of power- lots of bang for the buck but not refined.
Tons of hidden nannies and "protection built in"
(I cant decide if Nissan is protecting the car from abuse or the demographic from itself)

-Cuts boost immediately if you touch brake
-will NOT let you do a burn out
-cuts power BEFORE AND AFTER redline so there is no hard limit ie- bang bang bang It sort of see saws more gently up and down
-speed limiters are for antiquated aerodynamics- let wanted the look more that they wanted great aero
-may be 80% new parts but he said lots of old parts- just updated and stamped with new numbers.
-he could really tell that the Nissan engineers and ECU programmers do NOT have the same budget as BMW
-Clutch and ECU are set to only allow boost when clutch is FULLY released. i mean 100% ??? (really trying to protect something)

on and on and on

Mercedes designed Auto is slow

 

[gymratter]

This shit is an hour long. You got some time stamps? lol.

yeah im not clicking on that vid either lol ?

 

[SpeedRacer]

I am a car nut and listened to whole thing.

Lots of subtle slams against the Z and its demographic.
I am sure a lot of those same subtle facts went right over said demographics heads
But

He thinks a lot of Z are going to be on CoPart in short order.
Lots of power- lots of bang for the buck but not refined.
Tons of hidden nannies and "protection built in"
(I cant decide if Nissan is protecting the car from abuse or the demographic from itself)

-Cuts boost immediately if you touch brake
-will NOT let you do a burn out
-cuts power BEFORE AND AFTER redline so there is no hard limit ie- bang bang bang It sort of see saws more gently up and down
-speed limiters are for antiquated aerodynamics- let wanted the look more that they wanted great aero
-may be 80% new parts but he said lots of old parts- just updated and stamped with new numbers.
-he could really tell that the Nissan engineers and ECU programmers do NOT have the same budget as BMW
-Clutch and ECU are set to only allow boost when clutch is FULLY released. i mean 100% ??? (really trying to protect something)

on and on and on

Mercedes designed Auto is slow

Same here on listening to the whole thing.

I played it in the background while keeping my office door closed and working on things that need to get done but aren't exciting.

It convinced me that I shouldn't consider trading in my MKV for a Z anytime soon. ?

 

[J29DB03]

Same here on listening to the whole thing.

I played it in the background while keeping my office door closed and working on things that need to get done but aren't exciting.

It convinced me that I shouldn't consider trading in my MKV for a Z anytime soon. ?

Now a minivan on the other hand… with those seats…

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