News, Updates, and Discussions on next-gen A100 Supra

[Sereph102889]

Hmm... not sure I would want that tbh. If Toyota started working on a completely different product that means nothing but fresh R&D from start to finish and the final product would be close to GTR costs and that would make it unobtainable for people such as myself. I love this car and I love the partnership with BMW, they gave this car a ton of amazing shit. I have never been a brand loyalist and do not think I ever will be, a car is a car, as long as it looks great, drives great, and sounds great, I could care less who made it as long as I can afford it.

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[romanLegion9574]

An in-house inline 6 sounds like nothing more than a rumor, from my perspective. I can't see Toyota designing an inline 6 from scratch in just 2 years while maintaining their threshold of reliability. That's not to mention that there's no factory line that's set up to build an inline 6, so there's an expensive start up cost.

I faintly remember an interview from Toyota's chief Supra engineer saying the current Supra isn't making money, so any in-house R&D + setup overhead costs would probably drive the cost into the 6 figure range to break even, and we come back to the LFA/2nd gen NSX/newer GTR problem where at the cost you're paying, you might as well be buying into a fancier brand name like McLaren or Porsche whose primary focus is performance cars.

I also can't see Toyota breaking tradition and dumping a V6 or the Lexus V8s into the Supra either.

 

[H2O_Doc]

You know, the last big German-Japanese partnership ended poorly, albeit with a bang.

 

[romanLegion9574]

This seems likely to be the end result. But I wouldn't purchase a Supra for 100k. 100k might be MSRP and I'm sure dealers would mark it up to an insane price.

I can see a hotter version being a GT4 and Emira competitor, but I'd imagine they have to price it lower than the V6 Emira b/c of those cars' mid engine setup advantage.

 

[romanLegion9574]

I heard that with BMW it can go either way; either you have a great car no issues for years or you get a shitty one that has problem after problem.

I'm currently at 6800 miles and the car seems to be all good. Lol so lets see how it goes as I get closer to 10k miles.

I'm at 12.5k miles, and haven't had any chassis or powertrain issues at all; all it needs is regular maintenance. The only time my car was in the shop was for the trunk getting jammed shut because the emergency latch came loose.

 

[Escapist]

it would cost as much as a NSX and GTR if Toyota developed it themselves. I don't see Toyota making a car that's so out of reach for most people, especially nowadays since sports cars are a dying breed to begin with.

 

[MKV2021]

Not a chance in hell. Aside from all the legal contracts with BMW and Magna Steyr, think of the logistics of moving all the tooling from Austria to Japan, assuming they had space. That would be an obscene amount of cost for a low volume car.

 

[BrettS]

I can maybe see building the GRMN in house but moving the entire production line not a chance

 

[Spiguyver]

I tend to agree with everything everyone has said. Yet the person who told me this works for Toyota and was at that meeting in Mexico, so there is some credibility to his story. But until we hear more, I guess it's just that, a story.

 

[zrk]

I tend to agree with everything everyone has said. Yet the person who told me this works for Toyota and was at that meeting in Mexico, so there is some credibility to his story. But until we hear more, I guess it's just that, a story.

Anyone high enough up the food chain to be in these talks wouldn't be talking about it, is my read. Especially to someone who runs a youtube channel on the subject.

That said, talks like this happen all the time. Apple has talked to every car manufacturer in the industry, doesn't mean that there's going to be an Apple car. Sometimes talks are just talks.

But who knows, time will tell.

 

[type-964]

I find it hard to believe Toyota would invest any R&D + tooling for a new inline 6 ICE at this point.

 

[Chgu]

It's been under all our noses all along. They've been testing hydrogen combustion engines, to the point of racing one. Clearly, this all-Toyota Supra is going to be hydrogen combustion.

 

[RenRed2]

Not a chance in the era of partnerships for Supra and BRZ/GT86 or reused chassis and parts and call it new for the 'new Z'. Its a cost prohibitive item that Toyota will not carry. DOA.

 

[puzzled]

I tend to agree with everything everyone has said. Yet the person who told me this works for Toyota and was at that meeting in Mexico, so there is some credibility to his story. But until we hear more, I guess it's just that, a story.

We all like good stories especially like this one with suspense and thriller so we can continue making up more stories and let the world go fakup.

 

[PerformanceSound]

If anything, a new motor from Mazda’s partnership might come along. I think the chassis is contracted with Magna and so a powerplant change may be possible with a different supplier. Forget about in-house, Toyota gave up on that a long time ago.

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