The new 718 Porsche Cayman & Boxster thread: + GT4 Clubsport

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I mean... $95k-$100k for a 3200lb car that's slower to 60mph than the $50k Supra (and the Cayman/Boxster GTS). This car looks great but are we glossing over these very important figures because it has a manual transmission and a nur laptime 90% of people will never achieve? I get that there are a lot of suspension upgrades etc but.. I would get a used Cayman GT4 / Boxster Spyder over this.
If you could afford a new one I highly doubt you'd choose a used GT4 over this. Come on buddy a used GT4 over the 2020?!




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I'm not sure if all 2017-2019 Caymans are effected, but almost 15,000 have a recall that in the event of a crash a fuel leak may happen which can lead to a fire.

I steer clear from cars with recalls if I could afford a 2020 GT4 and the 2020s had recalls I'd probably not consider it. Call me crazy.
 

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Guess I'm a walking talking contradiction. Anyways it's past my bed time :doh:
 

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Porsche said that there will be a pdk gearbox for the new gt4 but it's coming a bit later.
 

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I mean... $95k-$100k for a 3200lb car that's slower to 60mph than the $50k Supra (and the Cayman/Boxster GTS). This car looks great but are we glossing over these very important figures because it has a manual transmission and a nur laptime 90% of people will never achieve? I get that there are a lot of suspension upgrades etc but.. I would get a used Cayman GT4 / Boxster Spyder over this.
So the very important figure is 60mph time? If so, you are looking at the wrong car to begin with. I'd take a used Cayman GT4 over my GTR all day, and the GT4 doesn't even touch the GTR from 0-60mph.
 

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So the very important figure is 60mph time? If so, you are looking at the wrong car to begin with. I'd take a used Cayman GT4 over my GTR all day, and the GT4 doesn't even touch the GTR from 0-60mph.
Well. No. I stated very clearly I would rather get a used Cayman GT4 over the new one for several reasons. The used one is not only quicker to 60 but lighter by 300 pounds and almost 20k$ cheaper in the used market.
 

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I've seen GT4 ads where they bought he car, did some HPDE and canyons runs for a couple of years and sold it for more then bought it for.
 

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Well. No. I stated very clearly I would rather get a used Cayman GT4 over the new one for several reasons. The used one is not only quicker to 60 but lighter by 300 pounds and almost 20k$ cheaper in the used market.
Ok, I guess that's fair point. But I would say though, the newer generation of cars are hiding their weight really well (e.g. GTR, Camaro, C7 Vette etc.) and their performance don't seem to suffer a lot. Sure, lighter weight will still be preferable, but I wouldn't write the new GT4 off just because it has gained some weight if the car is overall (KEYWORD here) faster.

In the history of Porsche GT cars, since when have we seen the next generation not to be better than the prior version? Maybe this one, but it is highly unlikely. I am not even a Porsche fanboy and I hate to admit this fact. They are just really good.
 

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Ok, I guess that's fair point. But I would say though, the newer generation of cars are hiding their weight really well (e.g. GTR, Camaro, C7 Vette etc.) and their performance don't seem to suffer a lot. Sure, lighter weight will still be preferable, but I wouldn't write the new GT4 off just because it has gained some weight if the car is overall (KEYWORD here) faster.

In the history of Porsche GT cars, since when have we seen the next generation not to be better than the prior version? Maybe this one, but it is highly unlikely. I am not even a Porsche fanboy and I hate to admit this fact. They are just really good.
Agreed. That lap time doesn’t lie. The rest of the specs are just... surprising.
 

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The new GT4 is so sexy but man that price tag really killed it and it is no longer a limited edition so I can't swallow the new high price. Especially you can get a supra and do it up with mods for less.
 

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I love what Porsche is doing to increase competition.

https://newsroom.porsche.com/en/2020/products/porsche-718-gts-4-0-models-boxster-cayman-19733.html

The new 718 GTS 4.0 models: driving pleasure for all the senses
01/16/2020
Porsche is adding two distinctly sporty and high specification models to its mid-engine sports car range: the 718 Cayman GTS 4.0 and the 718 Boxster GTS 4.0.

The new two-seaters are powered by the same 294 kW (400 PS; 718 Boxster GTS 4.0: Fuel consumption combined 10.8 l/100 km; CO2 emissions combined 246 g/km; 718 Cayman GTS 4.0: Fuel consumption combined 10.8 l/100 km; CO2 emissions combined 246 g/km) four-litre six-cylinder boxer engine that is used in the 718 Spyder and the 718 Cayman GT4. When combined with the manual six-speed transmission and sports exhaust system, this results in exceptional power delivery and a particularly rewarding driving experience. It achieves the sprint to 100 km/h in 4.5 seconds on its way to a top speed of 293 km/h.

Thanks to standard Porsche Active Suspension Management (PASM) sports suspension, as well as a 20 millimetre lower ride height and Porsche Torque Vectoring (PTV) with mechanical limited slip rear differential, the new generation of GTS achieves a remarkable balancing act between dynamic handling and everyday comfort. The standard Sport Chrono package with upgraded Porsche Track Precision App also emphasises the athletic character of the mid-engine sports cars. Black contrasting design elements and a dark Alcantara® interior create highlights typical of GTS models.

As with the 718 Spyder and 718 Cayman GT4, the powerful four-litre engine is characterized by exceptional efficiency. Adaptive cylinder control that alternately switches off one of the two cylinder banks at low loads, direct fuel injection with piezo injectors and a variable intake system also contribute to the car’s efficiency. The GTS engine also impresses with its superior power reserves and immediate response characteristics. It effortlessly revs to 7,800 rpm and, thanks to the standard sports exhaust system with dynamic damper control, also enjoys the acoustic advantages of the rich six-cylinder boxer engine sound. The 718 GTS 4.0 models adopt the twin tailpipe sports exhaust system with integrated gasoline particulate filter from the 718 Spyder and 718 Cayman GT4. With its saddle-type design, this creates space for the contrasting black rear lower section that was specially developed for the GTS models.

With exceptionally precise handling, agile steering and responsive cornering, the chassis also promises an exciting driving experience. It combines dynamic handling with suspension comfort that is suitable for everyday use. Porsche Active Suspension Management (PASM) is part of its standard equipment. This goes hand in hand with a chassis that has been lowered by 20 millimetres in standard form. Optionally, the PASM sports suspension lowers the body by just 10 millimetres. Other standard equipment includes performance-orientated components such as Porsche Stability Management (PSM) with separately selectable PSM Sport mode, the Sport Chrono package including the upgraded Porsche Track Precision App, Porsche Active Drivetrain Mounts (PADM) and Porsche Torque Vectoring (PTV) with mechanical limited slip rear differential.

The mid-engine sports cars are fitted with 20-inch light-alloy wheels in Satin-Gloss Black. High-performance tyres (235/35 ZR 20 at the front and 265/35 ZR 20 at the rear) surround the enhanced brake system, which features cross-drilled discs and red callipers. The Porsche Ceramic Composite Brake (PCCB) is available as an option. Dark, contrasting details reflect the particularly sporty status of the GTS cars, which applies to the spoiler lip, the all-black air intake of the Sport Design front apron, the front fog light lenses, the rear light lenses and the redesigned lower rear bumper.

In the interior, dark Alcantara® creates a sporty, elegant ambience. This is used for the centre panels of the standard Sport Seats Plus, as well as the steering wheel rim, centre console, gear lever and armrests on both doors. In the 718 Cayman GTS 4.0, it also covers the A-pillars and the roof lining. The optional GTS interior package adds another colour: the choice here is between Carmine Red or Chalk. This accentuates the rev counter, seat belts, all decorative seams including the embroidered GTS emblem in the headrests and the Porsche lettering on the floor mats with black borders. The trim elements as well as the centre console trim are made of carbon.

The 718 GTS 4.0 models come as standard with Porsche Communication Management (PCM) with a high-resolution seven-inch touchscreen and the Sport Chrono package, including the enhanced Track Precision App. This smartphone app, which originates from motorsport, shows performance-related data on the PCM display while in race track use and records it for later analysis. The online navigation module with real-time traffic information, voice control and Porsche Connect are available as options, as are a BOSE® Surround Sound System and Burmester High-End Surround Sound System.
 

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I love what Porsche is doing to increase competition.

https://newsroom.porsche.com/en/2020/products/porsche-718-gts-4-0-models-boxster-cayman-19733.html

The new 718 GTS 4.0 models: driving pleasure for all the senses
01/16/2020
Porsche is adding two distinctly sporty and high specification models to its mid-engine sports car range: the 718 Cayman GTS 4.0 and the 718 Boxster GTS 4.0.

The new two-seaters are powered by the same 294 kW (400 PS; 718 Boxster GTS 4.0: Fuel consumption combined 10.8 l/100 km; CO2 emissions combined 246 g/km; 718 Cayman GTS 4.0: Fuel consumption combined 10.8 l/100 km; CO2 emissions combined 246 g/km) four-litre six-cylinder boxer engine that is used in the 718 Spyder and the 718 Cayman GT4. When combined with the manual six-speed transmission and sports exhaust system, this results in exceptional power delivery and a particularly rewarding driving experience. It achieves the sprint to 100 km/h in 4.5 seconds on its way to a top speed of 293 km/h.
I love the careful wording to avoid undercutting the GT4, makes me wonder how quick this car is with the pdk (if available). Nevertheless, Toyota needs to step up to the plate.
 

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