Updated oil pump?

[razorlab]

Forgive my ignorance, but, wouldn't it be in Toyota's favor to issue a TAS, TSB, recall or whatever to replace this plastic pump at a fraction of the cost and labor rather than waiting for it to fail and having to replace the entire engine when it goes at a might higher cost?

The amount of Supras vs all the other Toyotas makes even a full engine replacement a drop in the bucket for them. For large corporations, it's all about the percentages.

Also, the oil pumps fail operation is to higher oil pressure, so unless the cracked or broken plastic is catastrophic, then engine failures *should* be pretty small.

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[MisterSkiz]

Have folks actually determined root cause to the inability to read the oil pressure (meant to type oil level)?

I have seen other posts on social media, other bmw forums and even youtube videos where folks removed the pump and no plastic is cracked and it appears there was no issue with the pump performing its primary function.

 

[lucky phil]

Have folks actually determined root cause to the inability to read the oil pressure?

I have seen other posts on social media, other bmw forums and even youtube videos where folks removed the pump and no plastic is cracked and it appears there was no issue with the pump performing its primary function.

I think you mean oil level and it's a good question but no I haven't seen an answer to why some cars don't like reading the level but the pump appears to be fine. It's strange because as we all know electronic components living in an oily 120 deg C+ environment long term never have any issues at all.
Phil

 

[razorlab]

It's strange because as we all know electronic components living in an oily 120 deg C+ environment long term never have any issues at all.
Phil

Question. Why did you buy a modern car if you want things to be how they were in 1972?

 

[lucky phil]

Question. Why did you buy a modern car if you want things to be how they were in 1972?

Hook, line and I believe sinker
PS sorry to hear about your trans. Look fwd to the rebuild details.
Phil

 

[razorlab]

Hook, line and I believe sinker

Phil

Question. Why do you deflect every time I call you out on your old man yells at clouds statements?

 

[lucky phil]

Question. Why do you deflect every time I call you out on your old man yells at clouds statements?

Learnt it from your track day "let me pass" antics

 

[razorlab]

Learnt it from your track day "let me pass" antics

Question. Why do you deflect with cryptic stupid shit on top of a deflection you already did?

 

[lucky phil]

Question. Why do you deflect with cryptic stupid shit on top of a deflection you already did?

I'm tired now, need a nap.
Phil

 

[razorlab]

I'm tired now, need a nap.
Phil

Hopefully your bed is a hay bale and not some new tech memory foam.

 

[lucky phil]

Hopefully your bed is a hay bale and not some new tech memory foam.

I'm genuinely sorry to hear about your trans failing and hope you post the rebuild and mod details. Your tech stuff is interesting.
Phil

 

[kern417]

No worries here either. If that’s what you want to do then it makes sense for you so go for it. But you are still talking about dozens of cases which is a very small percentage. That’s all I’m saying is let’s not make this sound like every other car is going to have a pump fail.

Let's be real. It's a lot more than a few dozen forum posts. Techs are posting up failures all over social media and it's not just Supras. It affects a bunch of BMWs with the same B58TU engine as well. I don't think every car is a ticking time bomb, but it is a flawed design that has a fix available. You can wait, or you can just get it done.

For reference, the B58 has been installed in millions of vehicles since 2015 and 10 years later we've started getting extended warranty letters for the PCV that was a known issue well in advance. So imo the forum posts, social media sentiment, etc should not be ignored.

 

[jchadwell]

Let's be real. It's a lot more than a few dozen forum posts. Techs are posting up failures all over social media and it's not just Supras. It affects a bunch of BMWs with the same B58TU engine as well. I don't think every car is a ticking time bomb, but it is a flawed design that has a fix available. You can wait, or you can just get it done.

For reference, the B58 has been installed in millions of vehicles since 2015 and 10 years later we've started getting extended warranty letters for the PCV that was a known issue well in advance. So imo the forum posts, social media sentiment, etc should not be ignored.

Ok, let’s be real. Toyota has sold roughly 15,000 2019 to 2021 Supras. We’ve had “several” issues reported on the forums and Faye has found maybe a couple dozen show up in Toyota’s warranty records system or whatever the name was. Do the math. More than 99% haven’t failed yet.
If they start failing in big numbers and we get an extended warranty notice sometime in the future then I’ll pay attention. Until then I WILL ABSOLUTELY NOT “proactively” spend thousands to replace a part that has a less than 1% failure rate. If you want to, knock yourself out.

 

[Evolution]

Ok, let’s be real. Toyota has sold roughly 15,000 2019 to 2021 Supras. We’ve had “several” issues reported on the forums and Faye has found maybe a couple dozen show up in Toyota’s warranty records system or whatever the name was. Do the math. More than 99% haven’t failed yet.

I hate that you are right, mostly cause I only have like a year and a half left of my power train warranty and I probably won’t even hit 25k by then.

 

[lucky phil]

Ok, let’s be real. Toyota has sold roughly 15,000 2019 to 2021 Supras. We’ve had “several” issues reported on the forums and Faye has found maybe a couple dozen show up in Toyota’s warranty records system or whatever the name was. Do the math. More than 99% haven’t failed yet.
If they start failing in big numbers and we get an extended warranty notice sometime in the future then I’ll pay attention. Until then I WILL ABSOLUTELY NOT “proactively” spend thousands to replace a part that has a less than 1% failure rate. If you want to, knock yourself out.

You do realise that you've now jinxed yourself Start getting the parts together buddy.
Phil

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