Post 6/20 Cars Now Tunable!

[tadda]

Now too bad 6 port makes less power than 2 port unless upgraded turbo haha. 2 port gang.

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Yeah.. what

He's referring to this:

2020 vs 2021 Supra: Which Makes More Power TUNED?

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[underdonk]

He's referring to this:

2020 vs 2021 Supra: Which Makes More Power TUNED?

Thank you. Seems scientific.

 

[GreyMadder]

This is lowkey not as bad of a deal as people make it out to be. Think about it this way, if you blow the car up, you have a fully stock locked ecu sitting in your garage ready to be swapped back in in under 30 minutes. No flash counter, no anything, no boost spikes etc. If had a 21 I would def do it. I have a tuned 20 but I realized if anything terrible were to happen (knock on wood) I would just buy a second untouched ECU. For 2021 cars that want to just get a nice MHD or ECUTEK tune on their cars this is the best option. And while yes it is still pricey, it is better than 5k, and I bet as this process becomes more common and more competition comes out, it will drop even more. But I know a lot of people who are ready to drop 3k to tune their cars after waiting for over a year. Now too bad 6 port makes less power than 2 port unless upgraded turbo haha. 2 port gang.

Nothing like trying to commit warranty fraud smh. They can totally tell if you've swapped ecus. The car knows to shut the drivetrain down if something isn't exactly in parameter and you don't think they can read and tell a different ECU was plugged in? If you are trying to make this much power to the point the car is having issues you should be long past worried about the warranty and be prepared for rebuilds of turbo, tans and the motor. This is terrible advice and will probably land someone in jail if they really took this serious. Come on my guy I can tell by your car roster you know better. Kids might read this.

However this tuning solution is reasonable and will bring a whole new slew of fast cars out in the next few months. Boost on.

 

[zrk]

Nothing like trying to commit warranty fraud smh

Yes- this is bad.

They can totally tell if you've swapped ecus. The car knows to shut the drivetrain down if something isn't exactly in parameter and you don't think they can read and tell a different ECU was plugged in?

This data would be stored in the ECU, that is.. no longer in the car. So.. this is unlikely.

But definitely don't commit warranty fraud. There could maybe possible be a legit use for swapping in the old ECU, something like, "my headlights got foggy." or "the leather is wearing out weirdly." and they try to refuse you service because the ECU is tuned.

Sensors on the car don't store information.. they're sensors, not storers lol.

 

[NitroYellowMKV]

Nothing like trying to commit warranty fraud smh. They can totally tell if you've swapped ecus. The car knows to shut the drivetrain down if something isn't exactly in parameter and you don't think they can read and tell a different ECU was plugged in? If you are trying to make this much power to the point the car is having issues you should be long past worried about the warranty and be prepared for rebuilds of turbo, tans and the motor. This is terrible advice and will probably land someone in jail if they really took this serious. Come on my guy I can tell by your car roster you know better. Kids might read this.

However this tuning solution is reasonable and will bring a whole new slew of fast cars out in the next few months. Boost on.

Fair enough, anyone who is pushing crazy power anyway is going to have more engine mods that can not be as easily swapped over, the thinking behind this is not really to commit warranty fraud. But in the case that you are tuned and something like your adpative dampers fail and they try to blame that, or other electrical or non engine related issues, I have seen too many times dealers try to do that when clearly the modifcations have nothing to do with what part failed. Either way if anything serious does happen, they do a lot of checks and like you said would probably be able to tell anyway. Another bennefit I just thought off was for people in cali who can no longer pass inspections with a tuned ecu, this is an easy way to swap to a stock one for the OBD check.

 

[Sereph102889]

Now too bad 6 port makes less power than 2 port unless upgraded turbo haha. 2 port gang.

I've heard this here and there as well but it's all to circumstantial. Same shop dynos the cars on different days, same mods, with "similar" weather conditions and the 2020 2 port car makes like 10-20 more HP and TQ. It's never the same day, literally pulling one car off the dyno and tossing another on, and never a large sample size of like 5 2020's vs 5 2021's with all the same mods, same dyno, same shop, same day back to back to back. Then there's also the fact that no two engines are the same. My stock 2021 could make 15 more HP than Joey's stock 2021 on the same dyno, same day, 5 minutes apart.

When I got my car tuned, my tuner literally pulled up a customers 2020 2 port car that was stage 2 with the exact same mods I was running, the CES Catless DP and that's it, and my 2021 6 port made roughly 15 more HP and close to 20 more TQ. "Similar" weather conditions, same dyno, different day.

 

[ViscontiSupport]

Sorry im not super active here guys. Forums has never really been my thing. Lol. - Shipments coming and going are happening almost daily now. We greatly appreciate all the support! Look forward to assisting many more of you.

 

[Drnick]

Hmmm? the price to go faster,and send it to Russia?? me thinks, if u wanna go faster, buy a faster car?

 

[ipeefreely]

Hmmm? the price to go faster,and send it to Russia?? me thinks, if u wanna go faster, buy a faster car?

Go buy a P1 then.

 

[MisterSkiz]

Go buy a P1 then.

gutted Fox body mustang with a junkyard boosted lq9 from a chevy truck

 

[jchadwell]

Hmmm? the price to go faster,and send it to Russia?? me thinks, if u wanna go faster, buy a faster car?

Or be patient? Does anyone honestly believe only the Russians can do this? Supply and demand will work it's magic sooner rather than later (already started to actually). Once multiple USA based options come into play, the supply side will increase significantly and the cost will decrease proportionally.

I plan to still autocross my car stock for a couple more seasons but will be considering tuning and other mods at some point. By then, I'll be shocked if the process isn't as simple to do and generally similar in cost between all ECU dates.

 

[underdonk]

Or be patient? Does anyone honestly believe only the Russians can do this? Supply and demand will work it's magic sooner rather than later (already started to actually). Once multiple USA based options come into play, the supply side will increase significantly and the cost will decrease proportionally.

I plan to still autocross my car stock for a couple more seasons but will be considering tuning and other mods at some point. By then, I'll be shocked if the process isn't as simple to do and generally similar in cost between all ECU dates.

This. It's the price you pay to be an early-adopter. As more shops figure this out, or someone comes out with a kit for tuners to do tunes on post-6/20 cars, the price will come down. Just have to be patient if you don't want to pay the early adopters tax. I will commend the folks at @visconti for offering a solution and bringing down the price at this point in the product's lifecycle. Looking forward to hearing from people who have gone through the process.

 

[zrk]

Or be patient?

TX2K isn't going to move it's dates because I can't get my ECU unlocked in the states.

 

[Bflood]

I think PPE on here can do an unlock with an EcuTeck flash for around 3,500. The cost is so high because they're buying a new ECU from a 2020 and merging the parameters from your ECU.

Beats sending your ECU to Russia and for almost the same money..

 

[travsam89]

I think PPE on here can do an unlock with an EcuTeck flash for around 3,500. The cost is so high because they're buying a new ECU from a 2020 and merging the parameters from your ECU.

Beats sending your ECU to Russia and for almost the same money..

PPE doesnt unlock it, they also send it out to russia

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