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Another Vendor Fails At Assisting with Mother Russia Femto

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If you guys really are getting slapped by customs every shipment why not fly over to the states for a few weeks post up in a rental house and perform some flashing over here?
Awesome idea. I vote for Femtopalooza 2022 and think Femto should host it in St. Petersburg, Florida for shits ‘n giggles. It would be like you never left St. P Russia except for the warm weather, nice beaches, and sun-fried old people walking around. I’d for sure take my car there for a cracked ECU.
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I'll grill out steaks, chicken, potato skins, jalapeno poppers, and a few other sides.
 

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Or talk to a USA shop (like PPE, maybe even a90 shop) they can get a list and deposits together. They will pay you x amont to come over and y% of revenue. And I’m sure a shop would let you set up a temporary shop in their place for us to enjoy. It’s a win win win if negotiations make it possible

edit: I’d probably offer little discount / same price as the shipping method. Therefore more profit for you (and the host shop) but less risk for the consumer
 

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Or talk to a USA shop (like PPE, maybe even a90 shop) they can get a list and deposits together. They will pay you x amont to come over and y% of revenue. And I’m sure a shop would let you set up a temporary shop in their place for us to enjoy. It’s a win win win if negotiations make it possible

edit: I’d probably offer little discount / same price as the shipping method. Therefore more profit for you (and the host shop) but less risk for the consumer
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Or talk to a USA shop (like PPE, maybe even a90 shop) they can get a list and deposits together. They will pay you x amont to come over and y% of revenue. And I’m sure a shop would let you set up a temporary shop in their place for us to enjoy. It’s a win win win if negotiations make it possible

edit: I’d probably offer little discount / same price as the shipping method. Therefore more profit for you (and the host shop) but less risk for the consumer
Or partner up again in a different way. With all the ways to work remote/screen share there has to be a solution to sending the physical ECU to Russia. EX: Provide isolated box on your server to vendor, Femto remotes in to unlock, customer pays vendor for service, Femto gets their share for unlock from the money received from customer.

I work for a company who has offshore contract employees and we provide a way for them to remote into an isolated RAS, access files/data, but prevent them from digging around. There has to be a better solution. I think it's a matter of trust/willingness to compromise, not technology that is holding this back.

Imagine how many others who would be willing to unlock if the physical ECU didn't leave the US. Lots of money to be made...
 

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It has hardware lock. I'm assuming there's a fixture/harness of sorts that need to be hooked up to a certain terminal/chip on the ECU.. Perhaps some soldering... Maybe Femto doesn't want to give this away?
 

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It has hardware lock. I'm assuming there's a fixture/harness of sorts that need to be hooked up to a certain terminal/chip on the ECU.. Perhaps some soldering... Maybe Femto doesn't want to give this away?
I doubt it’s that advanced. It’s basically gonna be a usb that’ll upload a code to the ecu. But still they’d need to protect it. Some agreements would have to be signed and trust would have to be formed. But I think this can happen fr. I hope they are at least considering
 

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It has hardware lock. I'm assuming there's a fixture/harness of sorts that need to be hooked up to a certain terminal/chip on the ECU.. Perhaps some soldering... Maybe Femto doesn't want to give this away?
Possibly. I guess this would have to be ironed out. Sell the harness, but Femto still has to remote in to unlock (Femto controls the software)? Kick back to Femto for every unlock? Again trust and compromise.
 

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Want a free money making idea? @femtoevo sell replacement Supra badges with something like this:

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I doubt it’s that advanced. It’s basically gonna be a usb that’ll upload a code to the ecu. But still they’d need to protect it. Some agreements would have to be signed and trust would have to be formed. But I think this can happen fr. I hope they are at least considering
I wouldnt be surprised if they are using a a timing or power related attack on the physical hardware. There are attacks where during startup of a microcontroller its vulnerable to attacks if you can freeze code execution. There are other attacks where you can cause odd behaviours by drooping voltages. Couple of examples below but I highly doubt its purely software, hardware attacks are probably being used otherwise this would be sold and packaged into a tool that tuners could use easily.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Side-channel_attack



 

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I have no idea how this really works and don't have a desire for the service, myself.

But I'm a little curious. Is it possible that Femto has simply, erm, "acquired" BMW's seednkey.dll (or equivalent: I'm only really familiar with Vector encryption and mostly use wide-open dspace controller for my day job) and a US or EU person with this proprietary information would find themselves in legal hot water?
 

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