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They won't be 125k

80-100k at best

Camaro and Mustang won't hold a candle to it in handling terms

There's no confirmation of anything local yet, but Toyota Au are interesting in loaning my Supras for an event in April at which the A90 will be unveiled to dealers officially. Hopefully I can know more then
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Au can't dealer mark-up about RRP any more, which is a plus

Keeping in mind what Toyota Au did for the GT86 - it's 29,990 here

My insiders said between 80-100k, but of late, closer to 100 than 80
 

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Lol at $150k. That’s just crazy. That is Cayman S money, and the Cayman is lighter, faster, better looking, and a Porsche! Or if you want Japanese, you can get a Lexus RC-F with a glorious NA V8 for that!

A 335HP Supra with the Z4 running gear and the humble B58 engine (used in the $60k M140i hot hatch and $70k M240i coupe) is in no way worth anything like $150k in a Toyota. It’s worth closer to half of that! Remember, US$50k is the official MSRP in the states, which is AU$70-75k. How on earth does doubling its US price make any sense?

And why would it be more than the Z4, which is a roadster, is faster, and is a proper BMW, with more catchet than a Toyota? Each of those adds $ above a slower Toyota hardtop. No, I don’t believe even Toyota would get it so wrong.

$100k is firming up as my pick, which I think is still $20k too much, but that’s hype and limited availability for you. In any case, anything over $80k and I’m definitely out. I simply can’t justify $100k on a car, when there are other great sportscars around for less.
 

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Camaro and Mustang won't hold a candle to it in handling terms
Don’t be so quick to write them off. With their trick adaptive and magnetic suspensions, and super sticky tyres, they both handle really well now. Camaro in particular is a bit of a track monster and sets impressive lap times, that rival dedicated exotic sportscars costing much more.

Camaro SS for AU$85k will quite likely be quicker round a track than the standard Supra. Lap times aren’t everything, but they matter when you want to over charge for your new sportscar. That’s why I think Supra must be under $100k, and better yet, under $85k. If it is over $100k, I can’t see why you wouldn’t just get a faster, genuine premium sportscar like an M2 Comp, a Lotus, or a Cayman.
 

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Keeping in mind what Toyota Au did for the GT86 - it's 29,990 here
This is a good point, and I hope they do something similar, in terms of a really competitive price, for Supra.

On the other hand, I was just thinking, an overpriced Supra actually strengthens the business case for the 86 MkII, because there is a huge gap between them and no risk of one cannabilising sales of the other. If the Supra is priced like unobtainium for the average buyer, then having the more affordable, accessible 86 makes a lot more sense as the attainable sportscar! A little ray of sunshine in this doom and gloom about pricing!
 

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$70-$80k for the 6 banger is all its worth - anything more and its a joke and I'm out. Plenty of other choices.
Will Toyota price it at this? - doubt it very much - prob closer to $100k or just over - and they will prob have plenty of takers at that.
Toyota has saved, cut corners and shared parts to then charge people a premium price would be an insult.

IMO if they had developed the car from scratch themselves and made the best possible car they could, engineered a 3JZ or whatever motor with 300kws and a proper manual gearbox maybe it would be worth $100k-$120k.
 
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I have just had word from the dealer that customers will be placing orders direct onilne and the local dealers are just points of pickup. No details as to the how, when or where yet.
 

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I have just had word from the dealer that customers will be placing orders direct onilne and the local dealers are just points of pickup. No details as to the how, when or where yet.
Couple of quick questions (which you probably don't have answers to): 1) Price? ;) 2) Warranty - will the Supra fall under Toyota's newly extended 5 year warranty scheme? A 5 year Toyota warranty would go some way to alleviating some of my concerns about long term BMW parts reliability with the powertrain.
 
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Couple of quick questions (which you probably don't have answers to): 1) Price? ;) 2) Warranty - will the Supra fall under Toyota's newly extended 5 year warranty scheme? A 5 year Toyota warranty would go some way to alleviating some of my concerns about long term BMW parts reliability with the powertrain.
1) No idea. Apparently still to come
2) Not sure, but I googled it earlier this week and I thought Europe is getting the new 5year warranty, but I can't find it now, so maybe I imagined it?
3) The gearbox isn't BMW, so not the entire drive train ;)

EDIT: The UK Warranty is actually in a forum post on this site :D
 

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FWIW - there's a national dealer conference on April 10. I was contacted by Toyota head office to use my A60, A70 and A80 there with the new A90

I wouldn't be surprised if we know more after then.

(They also changed their mind and didn't go with the older generation Supras :( )
 

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https://www.motoring.com.au/toyota-supra-sold-out-117849/

Toyota Supra sold out for Australia

Just 300 units will be allocated for Aussie Supra buyers in the first 12 months

The initial run of the Toyota Supra sports car for Australia will be limited to roughly 300 units, carsales has been advised by Toyota Australia spokesman Orlando Rodriguez.

Confirming the new six-cylinder sports car will launch locally in September, Rodriguez revealed that Toyota Australia’s allocation is “approximately 300”.

“There’s going to be limited volumes of that vehicle coming into the country,” Toyota Australia’s Senior Public Affairs Specialist for the Supra said, explaining that “the global production volumes are not that high.”

“Approximately 300 vehicles will go on sale in the first 12 months. After that we’ll obviously try to increase and improve the supply to Australia, but initially that’s what we’re looking at, and after the first 12 months we’ll let natural demand take over.

“That’s quite a low number for the size of our market. If we could get our hands on more I’m sure we’d sell more…”

Rodriguez said that to date, Toyota Australia has received 5000 registrations of interest in the new sports car. That speaks to the money-paying customers exceeding the car’s supply in the short term.

“There’ll be a constant pool of demand,” Rodriguez observed.

And with just 280 Toyota dealers around the nation, a Supra’s presence in the showroom might be fleeting rather than lingering.

“We’ll tend to be prioritising those dealers… where the market’s going to be.”

Jointly developed with BMW for the German company’s new Z4, the Toyota Supra is anticipated to arrive in the local market from September, possibly priced up to around $100,000.

According to Rodriguez, the Toyota Supra in Australia is expected to undercut the six-cylinder BMW Z4 on price, but BMW’s Z4 here in four-cylinder form is likely to be priced lower still.

Toyota Australia has effectively ruled out the four-cylinder Supra that surfaced back in January. It certainly won’t be launched in September with the twin-scroll-turbocharged six-cylinder model.

“At the moment… [the four-cylinder Supra] is going to be on limited release around some areas, in other regions, but it’s not something we’re going to be getting.”

Rodriguez left the door open for the four-cylinder model at some point in the future, but “at the moment we really want to just focus on the performance hero, which is that six-cylinder [model].”

The six-cylinder Toyota Supra will produce 250kW and 500Nm for a 0-100km/h time of 4.3 seconds, provided the standard eight-speed ZF automatic transmission is set up with the car’s launch function enabled. Traction will be handled by an electro-hydraulic active differential.

The Supra promises to be dynamically surefooted away from the straight-ahead as well, with torsional rigidity to match or even exceed that of the Lexus LFA. Additionally, the Supra’s centre of gravity – with an inline six-cylinder powerplant fitted – will be lower than that of the smaller 86 sports car. And finally, the wheelbase-to-track ratio is 1.55:1, which is shorter than that of the Porsche 911.

With a specification like that, no wonder Toyota Australia has more orders than it can supply.
 

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That article is confusing. It is not clear that the Supra is formally ‘sold out’ since no allocation method has been mentioned. Are they simply referring to 5,000 ‘registrations of interest?’ Because lots of people including me) register interest, then many decide not to buy when final price and spec is announced. How many of those 5,000 thought they could get into a Supra for $70-80k, only to discover it might be $100k+? I reckon quite a few of those people, me included, will drop out if the price is too high.
 
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