BMS Stud conversion

[Eddie21]

Anyone use red loctite instead of the blue when installing bms wheel studs? I’ve had mine installed already for a couple months and did everything as instructed. No problems just seeing if red would be more secure. I just randomly read some thread on bimmerpost where people who plan on not changing them again use the red loctite instead. TIA

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[Thraxbert]

I recommend Permatex Orange. Its holding power is much higher than the blues, but can still be disassembled (with effort) using hand tools.

Red is perfectly fine if you absolutely never, ever want to remove it. But if there's even a 1% doubt, Orange is a great choice! It's especially good against vibration.

I fully expect that my Supra will eventually be a ship of Theseus consisting entirely of zip ties and orange thread locker.

 

[Eddie21]

I recommend Permatex Orange. Its holding power is much higher than the blues, but can still be disassembled (with effort) using hand tools.

Red is perfectly fine if you absolutely never, ever want to remove it. But if there's even a 1% doubt, Orange is a great choice! It's especially good against vibration.

I fully expect that my Supra will eventually be a ship of Theseus consisting entirely of zip ties and orange thread locker.

Hahaha thanks man

 

[Traxion]

In the chance a stud broke, I'd be mad if I used red and then had to try to remove it.

 

[razorlab]

Nothing will last on the studs if you put any heat into them (track, spirited driving, etc)

I used red for the last three sets of mine. Ignore anyone saying that makes them permanent. They all come loose eventually. It's more important to check that the studs themselves aren't loose every time you take a wheel off.

In the chance a stud broke, I'd be mad if I used red and then had to try to remove it.

I had two studs break on my last set. I had used red. They all extracted without much effort using an extraction tool. Any thread locker just vanishes after enough heat cycles.

 

[TurboZX10R]

Razorlab as always with good insight.

They make multiple different red loctites. You can use the higher temperature version if you drive hard. Weekend car that doesn’t drive that hard use the lower temp red.

 

[Eddie21]

Nothing will last on the studs if you put any heat into them (track, spirited driving, etc)

I used red for the last three sets of mine. Ignore anyone saying that makes them permanent. They all come loose eventually. It's more important to check that the studs themselves aren't loose every time you take a wheel off.




I had two studs break on my last set. I had used red. They all extracted without much effort using an extraction tool. Any thread locker just vanishes after enough heat cycles.

Thank you. I’m getting an endoscopy right now so this read helps pass the time lol.

 

[FLtrackdays]

Nothing will last on the studs if you put any heat into them (track, spirited driving, etc)

I used red for the last three sets of mine. Ignore anyone saying that makes them permanent. They all come loose eventually. It's more important to check that the studs themselves aren't loose every time you take a wheel off.

I had two studs break on my last set. I had used red. They all extracted without much effort using an extraction tool. Any thread locker just vanishes after enough heat cycles.

*(not the wheel studs but on another part)* - The shop I use didn’t hesitate about using red on that socket bolt (button screw) I mentioned to you. I was thinking damn, that’s pretty harsh ?. Then I reread this post… Realized they could do the same, just use heat and get it off if they had too.

 

[puzzled]

Yeah, as others posted above, I too NEVER use red on lug threads as studs can break from time to time during wheel swaps especially if someone with an impact went at it . I only use blue. Never had a lug loosen on its own. I allow the thread-lock to cure overnight before using the car and absolutely use a torque wrench.

 

[FLtrackdays]

Yeah, as others posted above, I too NEVER use red on lug threads as studs can break from time to time during wheel swaps especially if someone with an impact went at it . I only use blue. Never had a lug loosen on its own. I allow the thread-lock to cure overnight before using the car and absolutely use a torque wrench.

I doubt Bryan used an impact or over torqued em. I just thought with heat he could have removed them easier & was referring to a bolt I’ll never take out. I corrected it above, so it’s less confusing. Thx Calvin ?

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