ANOTHER OIL THREAD (Actual information doe)

[FLtrackdays]

Hey Bryan is this the one you use "5W40 8100 X-CESS GEN2 Engine Oil (1 Liter) - Motul 109774"?

If it says LL-01 on the label, that’s the one. I was only able to find the 5L variety last time I was shopping ?

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[razorlab]

Hey Bryan is this the one you use "5W40 8100 X-CESS GEN2 Engine Oil (1 Liter) - Motul 109774"?

Yes, but I purchase it in the 5L bottles.

 

[Carbon0]

Yes, but I purchase it in the 5L bottles.

Thank you for confirming.

 

[RedSupra]

Can you tell me where you got this information? It would be nice if I can look it up when I do oil changes in case they make any updates or changes in the future from what was posted in the OP.

 

[concept]

@concept after all your crying...

I like these apples better:

For your Toyota GR Supra’s B58 engine, the recommended oil is 0W-20 C5 synthetic oil that meets ACEA C5 and API SN standards This specification is particularly called for Toyota’s GR Supra oil and is in line with the requirements for the BMW B58 engine that the Supra uses. It’s important to use the oil rating recommended by Toyota to ensure optimal performance and longevity of your engine. If you’re driving in conditions that vary from normal daily use, such as high speeds or extreme load conditions, the owner’s manual suggests that an oil with a higher viscosity may be better suited.
However, for most driving conditions, sticking with the recommended 0W-20 C5 synthetic oil is the best choice.


The B58 uses forged 4340 steel connecting rods, making them suitable for high-performance applications. The rod bearing clearance is typically between .0010 and .0020 inch.

Average oil temp during street driving....220?

Liqui oil recommends 0W-20 full synthetic oil for the GR Supra. I spoke to their tech representative (Stephan) and he verified that their oil meets Toyota’s/BMW’s (for the Z4 with B58) specification for the oil, and that their specific 0W-20 for the Supra 3.0 is the correct oil. Other, higher viscosity oils may void the warranty.

Always question the source of information about certain mods. If the source is a guy who tracks his car often, then his advice is more likely to be accurate for those who also track their cars.

However for normal street driving at mostly legal speeds, stick with the Toyota and BMW owner's manual. If I move to Germany and commute at 120 MPH for 45 minutes on the Autobahn, then yes, I will change oils.

 

[razorlab]

I like these apples better:

For your Toyota GR Supra’s B58 engine, the recommended oil is 0W-20 C5 synthetic oil that meets ACEA C5 and API SN standards This specification is particularly called for Toyota’s GR Supra oil and is in line with the requirements for the BMW B58 engine that the Supra uses. It’s important to use the oil rating recommended by Toyota to ensure optimal performance and longevity of your engine. If you’re driving in conditions that vary from normal daily use, such as high speeds or extreme load conditions, the owner’s manual suggests that an oil with a higher viscosity may be better suited.
However, for most driving conditions, sticking with the recommended 0W-20 C5 synthetic oil is the best choice.


The B58 uses forged 4340 steel connecting rods, making them suitable for high-performance applications. The rod bearing clearance is typically between .0010 and .0020 inch.

Average oil temp during street driving....220?

Liqui oil recommends 0W-20 full synthetic oil for the GR Supra. I spoke to their tech representative (Stephan) and he verified that their oil meets Toyota’s/BMW’s (for the Z4 with B58) specification for the oil, and that their specific 0W-20 for the Supra 3.0 is the correct oil. Other, higher viscosity oils may void the warranty.

Always question the source of information about certain mods. If the source is a guy who tracks his car often, then his advice is more likely to be accurate for those who also track their cars.

However for normal street driving at mostly legal speeds, stick with the Toyota and BMW owner's manual. If I move to Germany and commute at 120 MPH for 45 minutes on the Autobahn, then yes, I will change oils.

Only you would dismiss literal documentation from the manufacturer but hang your hat on a third party oil manufacturer's employee who's job it is to sell oil.

It was better when you weren't posting. Please see your way out of this thread. The adults are talking.

 

[rottmore]

I like these apples better:

For your Toyota GR .... from normal daily use, such as high speeds or extreme load ...0W-20 C5 synthetic oil is the best choice.
The B58 uses forged 4340 steel connecting rods...typically between .0010 and .0020 inch.
Average oil temp during street driving....220?
Liqui oil recommends 0W-20... I spoke to their tech representative

 

[concept]

Only you would dismiss literal documentation from the manufacturer but hang your hat on a third party oil manufacturer's employee who's job it is to sell oil.

It was better when you weren't posting. Please see your way out of this thread. The adults are talking.

Didn't BMW make the owner's manual for the Z4? Does that list 5W-40?

 

[razorlab]

Didn't BMW make the owner's manual for the Z4? Does that list 5W-40?

I said stop talking.

 

[concept]

And another thing: Liqui Moly has many oil viscosity choices, so what does selling oil have anything to do with their recommendation? The bottom line: You have a highly modified Supra. Buy what's best for it.

 

[razorlab]

And another thing: Liqui Moly has many oil viscosity choices, so what does selling oil have anything to do with their recommendation? The bottom line: You have a highly modified Supra. Buy what's best for it.

Please leave the thread. It’s about facts.

 

[tracer bullet]

The list clearly shows "technically suitable" oils for a B58. And it shows "Recommended" oils. Some of you are going with the technically suitable list, others either the recommended list. Seems as long as people have the information to decide which side of that fence to be on, they should all coexist happily . But apparently not?

 

[itzTang]

What oil for the final edition? ?

 

[rottmore]

I like these apples better:

For your Toyota GR Supra’s B58 engine, the recommended oil is 0W-20 C5 synthetic oil .... It’s important to use the oil rating recommended by Toyota to ensure optimal performance and longevity of your engine.
However, for most driving conditions, sticking with the recommended 0W-20 C5 synthetic oil is the best choice
Average oil temp during street driving....220?

Liqui oil recommends 0W-20 full synthetic oil for the GR Supra. I spoke to their tech representative (Stephan)

And another thing: Liqui Moly has many oil viscosity choices, so what does selling oil have anything to do with their recommendation?

 

[tracer bullet]

Not sure what to make of all the above. So is there a suggestion that weight is not important? Ever watched the same oil geek's videos showing how the pour points are affected at temps some of us see every morning during the winter? 20W50 is OK in your B58 in MN in January?

Is there also a suggestion that Liqui Moly makes mediocre oil, justified with a copy of some post on the internet? I might go so far as to agree that all oils are approximately the same, but is there now a suggestion here that Liqui Moly is actually worse?

FFS another oil thread.

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