Yeah and the rumor says it's not the 6 cly attainable model eitherI believe when they actually show it.
According to the BMW guy.It's probably been the plan all along.
2020: release the car.
2021: power bump.
2022: manual.
2023: Facelift.
2024: GRMN.
2025:
2025: I really hope not. My eyes can only roll so far into the back of my head.2020: release the car.
2021: power bump.
2022: manual.
2023: Facelift.
2024: GRMN.
2025: Paul Walker edition with orange paint and 1000hp
A lot. 0-60 might be ok if 60 can be reached in 2nd gear, but beyond that it'll really be a lot slower. The manual will be for the "purists" lol. Don't expect many of them to sell. You have to remember, a ton of people crying about it on the internet how "it's just a BMW" and "it has to have a stick" can barely afford a new 86, let alone a Supra. They all want a manual Supra, but if they're able to afford it, is a whole other matter. I've driven manuals my whole driving life, cars and semi trucks, and it's just a huge step backwards. Next thing you know people will want drum brakes instead of discHope some reliable info will be released towards the end of the year, as I wanted to order a Supra early next year.
I wonder how much acceleration will suffer due to manual tho... :/
I'm comming from tunned 86 and manual there adds to the experienceA lot. 0-60 might be ok if 60 can be reached in 2nd gear, but beyond that it'll really be a lot slower. The manual will be for the "purists" lol. Don't expect many of them to sell. You have to remember, a ton of people crying about it on the internet how "it's just a BMW" and "it has to have a stick" can barely afford a new 86, let alone a Supra. They all want a manual Supra, but if they're able to afford it, is a whole other matter. I've driven manuals my whole driving life, cars and semi trucks, and it's just a huge step backwards. Next thing you know people will want drum brakes instead of disc
If they give manual to 2.0 it MAY weight around 1360-1370kg (the difference between PDK 718 and manual is actually 40kg), easier to cut under 1350kg from that point. Then some suspension, some brakes, lighter, lower driver seat and maybe later down the line mechanical LSD. Tune it to 300-320hp on top of it.I could care less if the manual is slower. It’s more fun to use and that’s rather the point of a more or less pointless and impractical sportscar — to have fun with it.
In not very long there will be plenty of time to choose from a range of new cars which all have automatics, or 2-3 automatic/automated gears or no transmissions at all.
For right now, the few new manual cars still available are generally fun to drive models.
If the 2.0L is the only volume production variant that gets a manual option then it’s going to definitely need another 100-150hp via parts and a custom tune. And an uprated suspension. And an aftermarket or BMW parts-bin LSD. And 3.0 Supra front brake calipers.
A GRMN manual is an awesome if for most unattainable super limited prospect. A volume Supra 3.0 B58D manual is what most buyers want.
Car and driver seems to think it's coming, although only with the 4 cylinder and GRMN model....
https://www.caranddriver.com/news/amp33445247/toyota-supra-manual-rumor/