2020 vs 2021 Supra: Which Makes More Power TUNED?

[tadda]

National Speed Inc: Video posted October 1, 2021

"In this video, we put upgraded 2020 and 2021 GR Supras head-to-head! Both are equipped with our Stage-3 package, both calibrated by Vlad via EcuTek, both tested on the same dyno, and both completed just days apart with similar conditions. It's the ultimate 2-port versus 6-port engine comparison! "

Stage-3 package contents for both 2020 and tunable 2021 models below:

• MST Performance Auto Parts air-intake system
• Optional MST Performance Auto Parts turbocharger inlet
• Extreme Turbo Systems down-pipe with EPA compliant GESi high-flow catalytic converter
• Optional AMS Performance 3.00" charge pipe
• Calibration via EcuTek Technologies Ltd

"2020 VS 2021 Supra: Which Makes More Power TUNED?" (video below)

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[Mason]

Throw a pure 800 on both and see what’s on top

 

[Dannyvandelft]

Not back to back, so it's useless. "Similar" conditions can mean a million things. If it's not the same, it's not comparable.

 

[H2O_Doc]

Ohhhhh the ire that shall come.

Heresy.

 

[GreyMadder]

Not sure the word ultimate is used correctly here.

 

[VA90]

The takeaway appears to be that this collection of mods is slightly less effective on the 2021?

 

[Bflood]

The A90 will (should) always make more power if mods are the same.

 

[Mason]

The takeaway appears to be that this collection of mods is slightly less effective on the 2021?

The 6 port on the 21+ Model is better for bigger turbos. Fbo is the same but once you step into real power it’s better

 

[Bflood]

The 6 port on the 21+ Model is better for bigger turbos. Fbo is the same but once you step into real power it’s better

How do you figure?
11:1 (A90) vs 10:1 (A91) compression ratio.. if it's modified the same, making similar boost, the A90 will always make more power. Period.

 

[suicidaleggroll]

Edit: title was changed, my post no longer applies

 

[suicidaleggroll]

How do you figure?
11:1 (A90) vs 10:1 (A91) compression ratio.. if it's modified the same, making similar boost, the A90 will always make more power. Period.

Well yeah, because the whole point of lower compression is so you can run more timing and boost. If you detune it so it’s running the same timing and boost as the higher compression engine, then the lower compression engine will make less power.

 

[tadda]

Edit: title was changed, my post no longer applies

Thanks for feedback...changed for clarity...

 

[Bflood]

Well yeah, because the whole point of lower compression is so you can run more timing and boost. If you detune it so it’s running the same timing and boost as the higher compression engine, then the lower compression engine will make less power.

No, the whole reason for lower compression is to allow for shitty gas.. tune both cars on 93 pump or better, the A90 will always make more power.

People who are serious about making power aren't running 10:1 compression.

 

[Mason]

No, the whole reason for lower compression is to allow for shitty gas.. tune both cars on 93 pump or better, the A90 will always make more power.

People who are serious about making power aren't running 10:1 compression.

why are you personally moving from 2 port to 6 port then?

 

[Bflood]

why are you personally moving from 2 port to 6 port then?

I never said the 6 port isn't a better design.. but for the overwhelming majority of people buying these cars, having the 2port high compression motor will be more beneficial then the 6port low compression motor. The 2port varient will always make better power unless A) you don't care about tuning or B) you fill your car with garbage, low grade, pump gas.

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