A90 Supra GR concept comes down under

[Jeff Lange]

He said high end those are just beetles and upgraded family cars lol.

Yeah... lol.

Jeff

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[Guff]

Porsche 911, Cayman, the BMW M-cars, there are a few others I can't recall off the top of my head.

Jeff

Yup, BMW's own M "Double-Joint Spring-Strut Front Axle" design is largely similar to the front suspension on the Supra. M3/M4s use a 5-link rear, I believe, and the Supra appears to be a similar style, although I'm not sure if its' a 5-link or not yet. Same style of aluminum subframe with a stamped steel lower arm though. Very M indeed.

Also, looking through M suspension diagrams, I think the Supra's control arms might actually be similar forged aluminum units, so they should be plenty strong and light.

 

[supraboi]

https://www.motoring.com.au/born-again-toyota-supra-confirmed-for-australia-113839/

Born-again Toyota Supra confirmed for Australia
Striking $2.7m concept car visits Oz; production version due for local launch in mid-2019

Toyota’s fifth-generation Toyota Supra has made its Australian debut in concept form, but the production version is yet to be officially confirmed for local release.

However, while Toyota Australia remains cagey about Supra details — including its local launch, pricing and specs — motoring.com.au understands the born-again Toyota Supra will be confirmed for the Aussie market at a European drive event in September.

The global rollout of the new Toyota Supra will begin in early next year and, depending on worldwide demand, the high-performance sports car should be available here from around mid-2019.

To maintain the hype, its launch has been preceded by the appearance of the one-off Toyota GR Supra Racing Concept, which premiered at the Geneva motor show in March, at special functions around the world – including the 2018 Goodwood Festival of Speed, where a camouflaged production version of the new Supra made its world debut.

Demonstrating just how important the Aussie market will be for the new tyre-frying, rear-drive coupe, the multi-million-dollar Toyota Supra concept was air-freighted directly from Goodwood for a brief viewing by media and enthusiasts at Toyota Australia HQ in Port Melbourne on Saturday.

Australians buy a disproportionately high number of high-performance cars and the GR Supra Racing Concept’s flying visit was designed to whet the appetites of Supra fans — and potentially a few Ford Mustang and Porsche Cayman owners too.

Toyota Australia’s public affairs manager, Brodie Bott, said the concept car’s arrival in Australia was “hugely exciting”.

“There are a lot of die-hard fans here in Australia when it comes to Supra, and to top it off it’s a $2.7 million concept. That would probably make it the most expensive Supra going round I’d say!”

Developed in tandem with the next-generation BMW Z4 roadster, which will be built alongside it at the Magna Steyr plant in Austria, the 2019 Toyota Supra coupe will become the Japanese giant’s flagship sports car.

We know the compact rear-wheel drive two-seater will weigh just under 1500kg, offer 50:50 weight distribution and bring the choice of either 195kW 2.0-litre inline turbo four-cylinder or 250kW 3.0-litre turbo inline six-cylinder engines.

Australian pricing for the new Toyota Supra is a hot topic, but Toyota is keeping mum for now.

Best guesses are that the 2019 Toyota Supra will be priced to compete with the Ford Mustang, with a sub-$60,000 price for the entry-level 2.0-litre version, but the jury’s out on the big-daddy six-cylinder Supra.

Depending on equipment levels, the fastest Supra should still cost well under $100,000.

Bott wouldn’t talk about local details, but when asked whether the 2019 Toyota Supra will be one of the brand’s most expensive models (the Toyota LandCruiser Sahara V8 diesel costs a smidge over $120,000), thus putting it out of reach for many buyers, Bott appeared unfazed.

“I talked to one of the Supra car club guys earlier and I said ‘Will you trade in the old one?’. He said ‘No I just need to find more room in the garage.’

“So I think with that in mind it’s pretty safe to say for most people they’ll want to get their hands on one, regardless of the cost.”

“We are getting lots of requests direct to us and via dealers,” said Bott, conceding that global demand for the first Supra in more than a decade will be significant.

This will make supply tight and could result in lengthy queues, not unlike the 12-month waits customers endured when the new-gen Ford Mustang first launched here in January 2016.

“We always push for as many cars as possible and we’re still crunching numbers at the moment, but something like the Supra is not always about volume,” offered Bott.

Toyota will invite automotive media to drive pre-production versions of the new 2019 Toyota Supra in Europe in September, which is when first Australian details will be announced, according to our sources.

There will be road and track testing in Spain but the exterior and interior of the new Toyota Supra will remain camouflaged until the brand decides to officially reveal the car.

It’s unclear when or where that will be, but there’s talk that the world’s biggest enthusiast and tuning expo, SEMA in Las Vegas, could be the place in early November.

The 2019 Toyota Supra revives an iconic sports car nameplate that stretches back to 1978 and has a cult following among enthusiasts and tuners.

Positioned above the Toyota 86 coupe ($31,000-$40,000), it will be a new halo model that’s expected to bring more customers into Toyota dealerships, providing a flow-down effect on sales of other models such as the all-new Toyota Corolla that here in August.

“The Supra represents a new chapter for Toyota and the new TNGA architecture is really helping us move the direction of Toyota forward as well,” said Bott.

“You see it in the C-HR, you’ll see it in the new Corolla. It’s lower to the ground, it’s a more rigid body, it has a sportier design. It is a really exciting time for Toyota.”

Stay tuned for more Supra details as they leak out…

 

[MA617M]

I'll add that the spokesperson for Toyota at this event (mentioned above, not the gentleman I dealt with) knew nothing about the A90 compared to us.

 

[PerformanceSound]

I'm surprised Lexus is able to incorporate double-wishbone suspension on the RC-F and BMW is not on the M cars. It cannot be cost, because the RCF costs less than the M3/M4 and cannot be the space in the engine bay because the RCF has a V8 motor that takes up more room than I6.

 

[MA617M]

Anyone who has concerns about the car looking bulbous - from seeing the concept in the flesh, even in widebody form, the car looks anything but. It flows really nicely from the rear haunces, with a slender C pillar and all flowing into that pointed, down facing nose.

Proportionally, it's really nice. Almost 250GTO/2000GT. I think it will be one of the more 'beautiful' supras compared to the last four.

 

[Spilner]

Anyone who has concerns about the car looking bulbous - from seeing the concept in the flesh, even in widebody form, the car looks anything but. It flows really nicely from the rear haunces, with a slender C pillar and all flowing into that pointed, down facing nose.

Proportionally, it's really nice. Almost 250GTO/2000GT. I think it will be one of the more 'beautiful' supras compared to the last four.

"But but but Zee4 reskinn"

 

[Guff]

Updated Post #2 with photos of event.

 

[SS900]

Anyone who has concerns about the car looking bulbous - from seeing the concept in the flesh, even in widebody form, the car looks anything but. It flows really nicely from the rear haunces, with a slender C pillar and all flowing into that pointed, down facing nose.

Proportionally, it's really nice. Almost 250GTO/2000GT. I think it will be one of the more 'beautiful' supras compared to the last four.

What about size? Just how small is this thing?

 

[MA617M]

What about size? Just how small is this thing?

Think GT86 size but with a longer nose and less room between the B and C pillar.


If you watch the video from motoring.com.au, you can see how small it is compared to me and the journo. For reference, I'm 6'0" when I'm not slouching like the geek I am

 

[Spilner]

Think GT86 size but with a longer nose and less room between the B and C pillar.


If you watch the video from motoring.com.au, you can see how small it is compared to me and the journo. For reference, I'm 6'0" when I'm not slouching like the geek I am

So like the A60 and the AE86, nice

 

[supraboi]

https://www.themotorreport.com.au/car-article/motor-news/toyota-supra-lands-in-oz-119031.html

Toyota Supra lands in Oz

Toyota Australia unveiled a special guest to Supra fans at its headquarters in Port Melbourne this weekend.

Having flown in after being on display at Goodwood and arriving via a short stint in Singapore, the Toyota GR Supra Racing Concept was on display for just one day before returning home.

The $2.7 million car is the first preview of what to expect from the Japanese brand’s reborn cult classic Supra that is likely to arrive in Australia sometime next year. First unveiled at the Geneva motor show in March, a camouflaged near-production version made its first driving debut at the Goodwood Festival of Speed this month.

Further good news for fans is that we’ll know local details on the Supra soon, with Toyota keen to kick-off official pre-orders.

“At the moment we are testing the market for interest in the Supra and we thought it would be great to get it here and test it with fans. The reaction has been great,” Toyota PR manager Brodie Bott told Drive.com.au

“Toyota Australia will be in a position to let fans and customers know what we are doing with the Supra in terms of production and sales locally in the near future. We’re expecting it will arrive sometime next year, likely in the second half of the year.”

Toyota Australia is also looking to expand its sports car offering with more models to be built on a performance-oriented Gazoo Racing platform, as well as hotted-up versions of cars like the new Corolla.

“I can't confirm what they will be because we’re working on that but there will be a lot more models and a lot more sport variants in existing models,” Brodie said to Drive.com.au at the unveil of the Supra concept over the weekend.

“Recently we’ve moved to the TNGA platform and it gives the cars a better and more rigid sports car-like feel. We’ve seen it with the Prius and the CH-R and with the new Corolla which will be launching here next month, and so naturally we are moving into that sportier feel and stance.

“I do believe the next-generation Supra will be built on a GR platform and it will be a Gazoo Racing line of cars and we are working through what cars will be offered here in Australia.

“The momentum and the buzz is growing and up until 2020 you will see a lot more Gazoo Racing, and from 2020 onwards you can expect it to explode.”

Toyota Australia invited fans and Supra car club members to see the concept vehicle in the metal before the real thing launches. Victorian Supra Club member Riley Fry said enthusiasts from the club were excited to finally see a fifth-generation Supra join Toyota’s stable after a 16-year hiatus.

“I have a Mark 2 Supra, two Mark 3s and a Mark 4, so I’ll probably look at getting the new one when it comes out but I’ll have to make some space somewhere in the garage,” said Fry.

“Everyone seems to like the look Toyota has achieved with the new model, especially around the lower rear quarter that pays some tribute to the popular Mark 4. That’s easily the most popular generation yet.”

Also on display were three older generations of Supra supplied by the club.

 

[MA617M]

nice, apparently I have a second A70 I don't know about!

 

[aeronSUPRAco]

Is this the same unit that was displayed earlier this year at the Geneva Auto Show?

 

[SS900]

Think GT86 size but with a longer nose and less room between the B and C pillar.


If you watch the video from motoring.com.au, you can see how small it is compared to me and the journo. For reference, I'm 6'0" when I'm not slouching like the geek I am

Wow, small car.

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