All-new 2023 Nissan Z makes world debut!

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Same here on listening to the whole thing.

I played it in the background while keeping my office door closed and working on things that need to get done but aren't exciting.

It convinced me that I shouldn't consider trading in my MKV for a Z anytime soon. šŸ˜
Now a minivan on the other handā€¦ with those seatsā€¦
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I am sure a lot of those same subtle facts went right over said demographics heads
Some of the more level-headed folks are starting to reconsider, but there's plenty of people there with their heads in the sand about the Camissa review like it doesn't matter (it does) or banging the same old drum of "not a real Supra/it's a BMW" or "it's not reliable".
 

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Bargain at over 40k US$ plus taxes etc. No.

Bargain is a GT86 or BRZ. Sportscar that is not over 40k. Nice handling and fun performance. The Z is a pig in weight and old in tech. Sorry its actually a terrible bargain in terms of development and tech. Thats OK for Nissan's bottom line and no one else's. They can say they made a Z. The next one if it comes will be hybrid or E...............maybe.
 

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Bargain is a GT86 or BRZ. Sportscar that is not over 40k. Nice handling and fun performance. The Z is a pig in weight and old in tech. Sorry its actually a terrible bargain in terms of development and tech. Thats OK for Nissan's bottom line and no one else's. They can say they made a Z. The next one if it comes will be hybrid or E...............maybe.
In the Carmudgeon video, Cammisa said the GT86 is way more fun than the Z. His subtle conclusion was: the Z is a nice car, the Supra is a high bar.
 

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Bargain at over 40k US$ plus taxes etc. No.

Bargain is a GT86 or BRZ. Sportscar that is not over 40k. Nice handling and fun performance. The Z is a pig in weight and old in tech. Sorry its actually a terrible bargain in terms of development and tech. Thats OK for Nissan's bottom line and no one else's. They can say they made a Z. The next one if it comes will be hybrid or E...............maybe.
It's not a "bargain" like with the Mustang etc., but for an import, I don't think it's outrageously priced either. Like I said in the sport Z vs 2.0 thread, with the current market and inflation I don't think $40k for a base Z is crazy. Now $50k for a performance Z, well that's a whole nother story.
 

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The base $40k Z fits inbetween the $30k 86/BRZ and $50k 3.0 Supra. Not sure what people were expecting...

On the other point, yeah $50k for the top trim is going to be a hard pass for me.
 
 




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