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ANOTHER OIL THREAD (Actual information doe)

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I believe we need BMW certified oil for the possibility of increased timing chain wear (if anyone here is actually going to drive/keep their Supra for over 125k miles, timing chain needs a special BMW tool or an engine out service for the B58). Cheap oil won't kill your engine as long as you're replacing it every give or take 3,000 miles or 5,000 (synthetic).
Both oils listed in our owner's manuals are fully certified. They are not cheap, regarding quality or cost.

Both of you guys are right in your own way and how you guys use your cars. The list of approved oils is always subject to additions and subtractions, that should be a given as oil companies are always needing to update and recertify their oils to meet OEMs' periodically updating their oil certifications.
True, and hopefully, Toyota and BMW update their manuals if there are changes to relevant components in the B58 engine, but at present, does anyone here really think that the oils listed in a 2025 Supra manual will cause premature engine component wear for typical street use?
If you do, that's where we disagree. Let's leave it at that.
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Damnnnnnnnnnnnnnn I wish they made em like that in the States ?. Quick translation from above, use the thick stuff for my subtropic ? Zupra ?

Luckily we have RazorLabs Inc. to keep us informed ? with our over legalized version (manual). Can you please relabel the title as “The the only oil thread you need’?
 
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European oil specification

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Just goes to show what a legal bullshit one EU country fell into, the same scam the US industry is under…
 

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You may have noticed that the page above is for "topping up" oils. The oil fill specifications are the same as the US specs.
When I was in my early 20s, all oil was plain multi-viscosity oil. As such, viscosity range was tied to more conditions (below freezing, long, high-speed highway drives, above 90°F driving for long periods, etc., yet even then, many younger drivers were confident that they were "street racers", so a popular oil was STP 20W-50.
Many, like today, thought they knew more about oil that the manufacturers. I wish I could drive 120 on the highway for hours at at time (trip to Vegas), but the risk of losing my license would be too high. (Been there, done that)
The average high temperature where I (and lots of others) live is 65°F in January and 77 in August. Average lows are 49 in January and 68 in August. Nuff said.

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