Audio upgrade options

[tadda]

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[Piotr]

Hi guys, i've been lurking on this forum for a while now.
Decided to hop into the discussion since i stumbled apon something interesting from focals "inside" line.

They are plug&play dedicated to BMW. But since we all know whats inside our Supras i figure these would probably replace our 8' subs too? They look excatly like the factory H/K subs taken out of the enclosure and the same as the Bavsound.
I might just order 2, try them out and return them if needed.

Anyone had contact with these?

 

[FlynnZero]

I'm an audiophile and I've always had an aftermarket sub and amp connected to the stock system to fill in the low end bass. Seems like all these "premium" audio systems are tuned to protect against blowing speakers or tuned for the general masses (very boomy). Also noticed the quality of speakers aren't as great compared to past generation Toyota speakers (90's ie.).

So here's a thread for those who will look into upgrading their Supra's audio in the future. I'd like to kill the factory amp, or kill the lines going to the 2 8" subs and put my own amp to drive those speakers. It just doesn't produce the proper frequency for the low end. An alternative may be to add an additional subwoofer (small of course) in the trunk just to fill in the low end. The mids and highs are very good tho. Although I had to tune the equalizer to get it to sound as natural as possible. The normal settings were really bad.

I'm sure someone will figure out the best and cleanest way to get some killer audio in this car.

Honetl

Okay I did the Tada upgrade (ports, wadding, EQ adjustment, ASD, etc). It’s a big improvement. I really don’t want to spend $2-3K+ on speaker/sub upgrades but am wondering what the next best steps are on a budget. I saw the Bavsound speaker upgrade (both just the speakers without the subs aNd the subs). I like the idea of drop in replacements and really don’t want to splice wires and lose factory connectors. But I also don’t want to spend $700-1000 on something just marginally better.

I could go all in and get a good amp/dsp combo and some Morel components (big fan of Morel). But I’m just not sure it’s worth it since my next upgrade is louder exhaust and eventually catted down pipe.

Agree, I also did the Tada upgrade and it made a huge improvement. I would rather put money in the performance.

 

[METAL]

Hi guys, i've been lurking on this forum for a while now.
Decided to hop into the discussion since i stumbled apon something interesting from focals "inside" line.

They are plug&play dedicated to BMW. But since we all know whats inside our Supras i figure these would probably replace our 8' subs too? They look excatly like the factory H/K subs taken out of the enclosure and the same as the Bavsound.
I might just order 2, try them out and return them if needed.

Anyone had contact with these?

Replace the amp first before changing speakers.

 

[Thill444]

Next step would be @tadda door enhancements.

After that the best option is the mObridge K2 amp/dsp. You can use this to power all your oem speakers and replace them as needed.

I like the idea of the mObridge option. I was listening to the stock system a lot over the past three days and it’s really not bad. Even after the Tada DIY fix, I really think the biggest gap is still the low end. I have a leftover amp, I’m thinking about getting a 10-12” subwoofer and trying that next, and then do the door mods on the OEM speakers.

 

[tadda]

Hi guys, i've been lurking on this forum for a while now.
Decided to hop into the discussion since i stumbled apon something interesting from focals "inside" line.

They are plug&play dedicated to BMW. But since we all know whats inside our Supras i figure these would probably replace our 8' subs too? They look excatly like the factory H/K subs taken out of the enclosure and the same as the Bavsound.
I might just order 2, try them out and return them if needed.

Anyone had contact with these?

Those Focals shown are 4 ohm speakers... BMW has a few different stereo options offered such as "Hi-Fi", HK, etc...And depending on the system the subs as well as amplifier outputs are either 2, 4, or 8 ohms... You'd need 8 ohm to properly match them to our HK amp with requires 8 ohm loads...Yes, you could run 4 ohms, but might run the risk of damaging our HK amp's output drivers at higher volumes...

That said, the issue is not really with the Supra's OE HK woofers (after fixing some enclosure design issues) but moreso with Amp and it's associated DSP tuning...

Here is a writeup I did awhile ago evaluating / comparing the Bavsound Ghost Subs to the Supra's OE HK subs...

Bavsound Ghostsub Review: I really wanted to like them...

 

[Thill444]

I have a leftover subwoofer amp and LOC from a previous vehicle. I have decided to add a 10" passive tube subwoofer that allows me to easily remove it for track events.

I also ordered he Technic PNP harness to add a subwoofer so no splicing or tapping. Nice and clean for $53 shipped.

I am hoping this will give me the additional bass I am looking for to give me enough to be happy, otherwise next steps is going with something like a Mobridge DSP/AMP and eventually updating speakers. But I will cross that bridge after I add new exhaust.

 

[METAL]

I have a leftover subwoofer amp and LOC from a previous vehicle. I have decided to add a 10" passive tube subwoofer that allows me to easily remove it for track events.

I also ordered he Technic PNP harness to add a subwoofer so no splicing or tapping. Nice and clean for $53 shipped.

I am hoping this will give me the additional bass I am looking for to give me enough to be happy, otherwise next steps is going with something like a Mobridge DSP/AMP and eventually updating speakers. But I will cross that bridge after I add new exhaust.

I've never found the signal from a LOC to be satisfactory with the factory EQ and bass roll off.

 

[Thill444]

I've never found the signal from a LOC to be satisfactory with the factory EQ and bass roll off.

Yeah I’m going into this with low expectations. Something tells me I will be ripping out the factory amp aNd replacing with a decent DSP/Amp combo. Mobridge really looks solid. Since I have the amp, LOC, etc I figure I will give it s shot. I’m not a bass head but just want something a little more. It baffles me that factory amps and EQ in most cars is so poorly implemented.

 

[Wettnoodle]

So I didn't see anything specific to my question and I'm sorry if I missed it. However, I'm in the process of trying to install an extra 12 inch sub, just to add some bass. Having a problem figuring out where a good place to run the remote wire so that it turns on and off with the vehicle. I am no expert, just know enough to get in trouble. My buddy and I have installed equipment in the past, however this car seems a bit more sophisticated than what we're used to. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

 

[Piotr]

Next up is the remote wire. I originally purchased The LC2i Pro because it has a feature where when it senses audio, it creates a remote output wire to turn on your amp(s). Unfortunately, in this car it didn't work exactly as planned. The LOC would randomly power up without the car being on. I spoke with an audio control rep and they said the car most likely has mics in it, pick up sounds, and powers up something in the CAN network which trips the LOC on. (These are his words, not mine. I do not know if this is true). I didn't like the idea of potentially draining the battery so I ended up finding a switched wire behind the fuse box that is located on the passenger side of the trunk area.

I used this video to help me remove the fuse box and find the wire I needed which ended up being a green/blue wire for the input wire into my relay:



Rob O.

Here is the solution to your problem Wettnoodle. It's from a topic created by static63.

If you dont want to cut any wires, like me, i used a fuse splitter. Im no expert too so please take caution

 

[Wettnoodle]

Here is the solution to your problem Wettnoodle. It's from a topic created by static63.

If you dont want to cut any wires, like me, i used a fuse splitter. Im no expert too so please take caution

Thanks @Piotr I literally just happened across one of these today which seems to be the perfect solution to my problem.

 

[BA9092]

I see a few have already upgraded to the OEM Audio Plus system as well as the Bavsound for plug-n-play solutions. But has anyone ever tried the Bimmertech Alpha One setup?

https://www.bimmer-tech.net/speakers-and-audio-amplifier-for-bmw

 

[METAL]

I see a few have already upgraded to the OEM Audio Plus system as well as the Bavsound for plug-n-play solutions. But has anyone ever tried the Bimmertech Alpha One setup?

https://www.bimmer-tech.net/speakers-and-audio-amplifier-for-bmw

Not a P&P solution for the MOST25 systems.

 

[BA9092]

Not a P&P solution for the MOST25 systems.

Ah...ok. Thanks for the info!

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