nibble
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** Don't take R1 concept Ceramic to track day! **
I want to start a thread to discuss brake pad that are affordable, reliable, & performs well in track day.
I was using Stock brake pad for almost 10 months (~ 20 track days) without issue until brake pad wear sensor went off. until then it was was fine and brought me back home from 2 hour trip. So I know I can trust stock brake pads. Since then, I've been using Hawk DTC-60. it's a "track only" pad and has a great stopping power. noise and dust is expected as this is track pads but what surprised me is wear on OEM brake rotor. It does wear out OEM rotor fast. past weekend, I took the R1 ceramic to Lime Rock Park. I used for street and didn't want to use track pads on the street but did not have time to switch it over to DTC-60. oh... boy... It was down right scary as brake won't stop at turn 1! I could not engage ABS to know the threshold braking point no matter how much I stepped on the brake. So no threshold braking for me for entire 2 days! took some fun out of it but I managed to squeeze out fun by hitching a ride with other instructors and sharing information. So all was not lost. After comparing the time, R1 Concept Ceramic would been full second or more slower than worn out OEM. So it would've been so much slower compare to DTC-60 which was expected but how much braking power it would yield was shocking. After that experience, I lost full confidence even on street and may not use it at all..
So here are my summary:
OEM : Good overall. works well with OEM rotor.
Hawk DTC-60 : Very good Braking power - better than OEM. More dust and harsh on the rotor.
R1 Concept Ceramic : Poor braking power. DO NOT take it to track! dust on track driving is as much as OEM.
Once I'm done with DTC-60, I may try Hawk HPS or HP+. post if you have any experience with other brake pads as well as options for rear brake pads.
I want to start a thread to discuss brake pad that are affordable, reliable, & performs well in track day.
I was using Stock brake pad for almost 10 months (~ 20 track days) without issue until brake pad wear sensor went off. until then it was was fine and brought me back home from 2 hour trip. So I know I can trust stock brake pads. Since then, I've been using Hawk DTC-60. it's a "track only" pad and has a great stopping power. noise and dust is expected as this is track pads but what surprised me is wear on OEM brake rotor. It does wear out OEM rotor fast. past weekend, I took the R1 ceramic to Lime Rock Park. I used for street and didn't want to use track pads on the street but did not have time to switch it over to DTC-60. oh... boy... It was down right scary as brake won't stop at turn 1! I could not engage ABS to know the threshold braking point no matter how much I stepped on the brake. So no threshold braking for me for entire 2 days! took some fun out of it but I managed to squeeze out fun by hitching a ride with other instructors and sharing information. So all was not lost. After comparing the time, R1 Concept Ceramic would been full second or more slower than worn out OEM. So it would've been so much slower compare to DTC-60 which was expected but how much braking power it would yield was shocking. After that experience, I lost full confidence even on street and may not use it at all..
So here are my summary:
OEM : Good overall. works well with OEM rotor.
Hawk DTC-60 : Very good Braking power - better than OEM. More dust and harsh on the rotor.
R1 Concept Ceramic : Poor braking power. DO NOT take it to track! dust on track driving is as much as OEM.
Once I'm done with DTC-60, I may try Hawk HPS or HP+. post if you have any experience with other brake pads as well as options for rear brake pads.
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