Have a look at the Prototype Supra's engine

[Leeky]

Which is why Toyota may decide to do a revamped 86 to address that market tier instead. I can't see them selling any variant of the Supra at $34k in the US, they'd be losing money on every sale. Happy to be proven wrong though.

I dont think they will loose money if they brought a 4cyl to the US. But yes lets come back to this thread in two years time and see who was right lol

But from the UK interviews it doesn't sound like the 4 cylinder will be sold world wide.

I agree. I suspect it’ll be a European only model. It would need to be a big seller to warrent US/Asia sales.

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[johnny_10196]

I agree. I suspect it’ll be a European only model. It would need to be a big seller to warrent US/Asia sales.

I think there is a good chance of it coming to Japan as well. The NA did outsold its Turbo counterpart in that market. Plus, don't they have some kind of displacement tax? Or is that Europe?

A80 Japan
GE 17,507
GTE- 14,060

 

[A70TTR]

yeah, they have a displacement tax... it's why the 1G-GTE/GA70s (2L-I6) sold so well in JP.

Fuel is also expensive there, so there's that too.

 

[Leeky]

Good point, the smaller engined car would be a better fit for the Asian markets taxation.

 

[BPEK Supra Interactive]

I hope reliability is up to our standards with these engine components under the Toyota logo. I can imagine in over 10 years if a part goes bad, you'd have to buy the replacement part from BMW -- which may be expensive... :/

 

[PerformanceSound]

Guff....i think now is an appropriate time for me to say, "told ya so."

There isn't a single part in that engine bay that is made by Toyota....not even a damn washer. Everything has BMW written all over it....it is a Z4, no; and, if, or but's about it. The motor is on a slant, so we can put that to rest. The cover is (as expected) a cheap plastic, and not a nicely painted one like the 2JZ-GTE (RIP).

Surprised no one has asked, "where the f**k will a 6266 snail fit on the exhaust side of that bay???"

 

[justbake]

Guff....i think now is an appropriate time for me to say, "told ya so."

There isn't a single part in that engine bay that is made by Toyota....not even a damn washer. Everything has BMW written all over it....it is a Z4, no; and, if, or but's about it. The motor is on a slant, so we can put that to rest. The cover is (as expected) a cheap plastic, and not a nicely painted one like the 2JZ-GTE (RIP).

Surprised no one has asked, "where the f**k will a 6266 snail fit on the exhaust side of that bay???"

Yeah they grabbed a lot of bmw parts off the shelf but you know this isn't the official production version right? Claiming that not even a washer is Toyota is a stretch

 

[Mike Myers]

I hope reliability is up to our standards with these engine components under the Toyota logo. I can imagine in over 10 years if a part goes bad, you'd have to buy the replacement part from BMW -- which may be expensive... :/

Depends on the country/region. In Germany - for example - spare parts for Japanese or Korean cars are often more expensive than those for BMWs.

 

[Mike Myers]

Whenever I would like to speculate on prices for upcoming Supra / Z4 I refer to the last Z4 price list. As you can see the most expensive Z4 with DCT was about 48,600 € without tax. The biggest 4 cylinder just 9,500 € lower (with AT).

I think the new Z4 will be a few bucks more, but still under 50.000 (w/o tax). I believe that the Supra will be only a little bit cheaper.

So my guess is

40k € / $47k / £36k for 4cylinder Supra
50k € / $59k / £45k for 6cylinder Supra

(All without taxes).

 

[jdcalve]

So my guess is

40k € / $47k / £36k for 4cylinder Supra
50k € / $59k / £45k for 6cylinder Supra

(All without taxes).

My guess is $5-7k lower than that.

 

[Mike Myers]

My guess is $5-7k lower than that.

Wish and hope you are right.

 

[Spilner]

Even if it a Celica, then no one will buy the 86 if your price points stand. You get a car with a 50 more hp and tun-ability for only $3k more.

Edit: this is a hyperbolic statement, the 86 will still sell but why release another similar car as a direct competitor

Celica should at least be +$10K than the 86

 

[Spilner]

Exaclty, thats why I said..



You can’t have the Celica and the 86... they are too similar. Kill off the 86 and replace it with a new Celica.
.

But this built in Austria should help the

Then Toyota would be missing an entry level RWD, they would just have an AWD Sports car if they kill the 86

 

[justbake]

Celica should at least be +$10K than the 86

Oh I agree, without reading the post I replied to then my comment won't make sense. Even at the price of the $35k its a tough sell with 250hp automatic. The mustang has 320hp (correct me if i am wrong) and with a 6 speed manual for less than $30k. The price savings alone is enough to hit a few crowds and still come out on top

 

[johnny_10196]

US pricing for the old Z4.

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