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if Toyota did do their own interior it would have made more sense than what's going on here.
Maybe.. some of the interior design choices (read: deviations from standard BMW design) are pretty dumb in the Supra. So even if the interior made more sense, it would've been hampered by a) far cheaper materials and b) it would be a little bit shit.

Happy to see some examples of what you consider are a better interior.. on a modern Toyota.
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Maybe.. some of the interior design choices (read: deviations from standard BMW design) are pretty dumb in the Supra. So even if the interior made more sense, it would've been hampered by a) far cheaper materials and b) it would be a little bit shit.

Happy to see some examples of what you consider are a better interior.. on a modern Toyota.
Let me explain, when someone has bought/invested into a certain car company's design language we pretty much know what to expect. JDM cars have their own flavor (just as GERMAN, Italian, Swedish etc.) and it's what I'm use to when I roll a JDM car. We all know the MKV is a BMW with JDM on top for the most part. I loved my SMG M3 because it was all BMW and it was what I expected, tuned to perfection. It would have been nice to see what Toyota would of come up with for the MKV interior... No one can say what it would have been unless they were working on the interior and then pulled when BMW was commissioned. When the MKIV came out people loved it, it's now dated, yet everything makes sense today. And the nastalgia of MKIV interior still carries a strong identity of its own. I will say, if BMW had been willing to drop their latest and greatest into the Supra, non of us would be debating the interior. The parts Toyota did give us is why we now own a MKV. For those hard up on BMW's design... You're proof positive that it's Toyota for the win in body design or you'd all be driving a Z4 or M2.
 

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The interior is very driver centric. The dominant gauge is a tachometer. Things used more often are tactile.

simple overall. No weird multi tier patterns or the like. Have you seen a modern Lexus interior? It’s a mess.

The fact that you keep grasping onto a car design from 30 years ago is enough for anyone to understand your stuck in the past. Anyone that is stuck in the past like that is just so boring.
 

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The interior is very driver centric. The dominant gauge is a tachometer. Things used more often are tactile.

simple overall. No weird multi tier patterns or the like. Have you seen a modern Lexus interior? It’s a mess.

The fact that you keep grasping onto a car design from 30 years ago is enough for anyone to understand your stuck in the past. Anyone that is stuck in the past like that is just so boring.
Boring? Lol The past is what a Supra is all about! This car is sold off of heritage and the DNA from the past and presenting a new take on it. Many would not know of the name Supra if it wasn't for the movies...after which many jumped on the bandwagon afterwards. Those kids back then are the ones that worked hard and dreamed of owning a Supra. Today buyers are living in the wake of the old. This concept seem to go over the heads of new school supra owners...I guess you own cars for the reasons of today which are why so many buy, then sell for the next blind purchase. It's all a personal choice and to each their own. But me, boring? Far from it.
 

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Let me explain, when someone has bought/invested into a certain car company's design language we pretty much know what to expect. JDM cars have their own flavor (just as GERMAN, Italian, Swedish etc.) and it's what I'm use to when I roll a JDM car. We all know the MKV is a BMW with JDM on top for the most part. I loved my SMG M3 because it was all BMW and it was what I expected, tuned to perfection. It would have been nice to see what Toyota would of come up with for the MKV interior... No one can say what it would have been unless they were working on the interior and then pulled when BMW was commissioned. When the MKIV came out people loved it, it's now dated, yet everything makes sense today. And the nastalgia of MKIV interior still carries a strong identity of its own. I will say, if BMW had been willing to drop their latest and greatest into the Supra, non of us would be debating the interior. The parts Toyota did give us is why we now own a MKV. For those hard up on BMW's design... You're proof positive that it's Toyota for the win in body design or you'd all be driving a Z4 or M2.
Thanks for making me read a whole paragraph to basically say, No.. you're right.. I can't provide a modern Toyota example of what I consider is a better interior than the Supra. ?

You're proof positive that it's Toyota for the win in body design or you'd all be driving a Z4 or M2.
You're not paying attention. I bought this car for what it is: not its marque; heritage or any other idiotic fanboy millennial bullshit.

Here in Australia the Z4 is the equivalent of approximately $100,000USD; The M2 is approximately $90,000USD. The Supra is equivalent to $67,000USD. If all these cars had price parity (or a much smaller price difference) you can bet your ass the Supra would've had much stiffer competition for my hard earned cash.

The Supra is great for what it is: A lightweight, cut-price BMW with a sexy Toyota designed shell. I don't have a problem with that description, but you seem to. ?‍♂
 

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Thanks for making me read a whole paragraph to basically say, No.. you're right.. I can't provide a modern Toyota example of what I consider is a better interior than the Supra. ?



You're not paying attention. I bought this car for what it is: not its marque; heritage or any other idiotic fanboy millennial bullshit.

Here in Australia the Z4 is the equivalent of approximately $100,000USD; The M2 is approximately $90,000USD. The Supra is equivalent to $67,000USD. If all these cars had price parity (or a much smaller price difference) you can bet your ass the Supra would've had much stiffer competition for my hard earned cash.

The Supra is great for what it is: A lightweight, cut-price BMW with a sexy Toyota designed shell. I don't have a problem with that description, but you seem to. ?‍♂
Actually that's exactly what it is a cut priced (since that's what you want to refer to your car as) BMW... And this why Toyota centric buyers are pointing out the obvious. As for design, apples to apples need to be applied, what sense does it make to compare something with nothing? If Toyota had built the car fully, there's a great great possibility it would have truly been expensive like the new nsx, etc. But would have been awesome all the way around. Alas as you have stated it's a cut priced BMW so here we are "pointing out the obvious!"

My purist MKIV owners were up in arms when the MKV came out, quite honestly so was I. But I've made peace with the BMW portion and the car as a whole is truly not bad at all. But am I going to sit here and say if Toyota built the car entirely it would be poop? That's delusional when you can look back on the history of Toyota and the Supra it self. But then again, you're not into DNA, bloodlines, heritage of a car... Yes, I clearly understand. I'm sure you'll move on to the next car or flavor of the day and it's OK.
 

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Actually that's exactly what it is a cut priced (since that's what you want to refer to your car as) BMW... And this why Toyota centric buyers are pointing out the obvious. As for design, apples to apples need to be applied, what sense does it make to compare something with nothing? If Toyota had built the car fully, there's a great great possibility it would have truly been expensive like the new nsx, etc. But would have been awesome all the way around. Alas as you have stated it's a cut priced BMW so here we are "pointing out the obvious!"

My purist MKIV owners were up in arms when the MKV came out, quite honestly so was I. But I've made peace with the BMW portion and the car as a whole is truly not bad at all. But am I going to sit here and say if Toyota built the car entirely it would be poop? That's delusional when you can look back on the history of Toyota and the Supra it self. But then again, you're not into DNA, bloodlines, heritage of a car... Yes, I clearly understand. I'm sure you'll move on to the next car or flavor of the day and it's OK.
This car is a great buy period! When a dealer marks it up to stupid prices this is no longer such a great buy.

Cheaper than a Z4, lighter than both the Z4 and M2, 3 or 4 and did I mention cheaper? Yup look no further for a great $60k car or less now that they can be had used. Doesn’t make sense why anyone would want to give a donation to any car company in the amount of $20k
 

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This car is a great buy period! When a dealer marks it up to stupid prices this is no longer such a great buy.

Cheaper than a Z4, lighter than both the Z4 and M2, 3 or 4 and did I mention cheaper? Yup look no further for a great $60k car or less now that they can be had used. Doesn’t make sense why anyone would want to give a donation to any car company in the amount of $20k
Just like anything in life, sure there's a price tag and then there's emotional ties, what's an item is worth to the individual.... Especially if they can afford it. It's all relative to your way of life and choices you can afford to make. These are not cheap toys and I agree it is a good buy, at any price of what the individual wants to pay. I too did complain per initial mark ups, but find a dealer that will work with you, special editions deserve special edition pricing, it is what it is.
 

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Ah.... the lovely dismissive "It is what it is".

Always the best.
Well my friend it does come to a point where we all must deal with things in a reality setting. I'll tie this all together with we all like, have or want the Supra with its good and bad. ???
 

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Actually that's exactly what it is a cut priced (since that's what you want to refer to your car as) BMW... And this why Toyota centric buyers are pointing out the obvious. As for design, apples to apples need to be applied, what sense does it make to compare something with nothing? If Toyota had built the car fully, there's a great great possibility it would have truly been expensive like the new nsx, etc. But would have been awesome all the way around. Alas as you have stated it's a cut priced BMW so here we are "pointing out the obvious!"

My purist MKIV owners were up in arms when the MKV came out, quite honestly so was I. But I've made peace with the BMW portion and the car as a whole is truly not bad at all. But am I going to sit here and say if Toyota built the car entirely it would be poop? That's delusional when you can look back on the history of Toyota and the Supra it self. But then again, you're not into DNA, bloodlines, heritage of a car... Yes, I clearly understand. I'm sure you'll move on to the next car or flavor of the day and it's OK.
Dont bother with this geezer he bought a car he hated from the very beginning even before ownership and still does.
 

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Dont bother with this geezer he bought a car he hated from the very beginning even before ownership and still does.
LOL Not at all, I bought a car for the reasons that are important to me and me only. I'm sure everyone else, hopefully have done the same.
 

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LOL Not at all, I bought a car for the reasons that are important to me and me only. I'm sure everyone else, hopefully have done the same.
No i dont mean you lol, your aussie pal was who i was referring too
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