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PerformanceSound
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Right...thank you for this....because im sure the main reason people buy or own MKIV’s is to race prep them with $200k dollar suspensions and chassis modifications to chase F1 cars at the Nurburgring??
This video proved nothing....other than alot of money can make any car go fast and handle great.
I never thought I would say this, but the MKV will be a much better car than the MKIV in stock and modified trim....you’ll see.
AHP
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The short answer is: not a re-skinned and re-badged BMW Z4. Other than a turbocharged inline 6, nothing in this car aligns with the 'heritage' of the Supra.
A worthy successor, IMO, would have been built by Toyota to be a direct competitor to the GT-R, Corvette Z06, NSX, etc.. offered with a manual transmission and priced accordingly. Preferably without a base model, but that's more wishful thinking..
Here's the thing.. I'm excited that this car exists; however, I'm am disgusted that it is the next "Toyota Supra" so many of us have been waiting for all these years.
DesmoSD
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200K suspension... chasing F1 cars? lol It's a SR3, a Hayabusa with 4 wheels.
https://performancehart.co.uk/
https://www.radicalsportscars.com/our-cars/sr3
So you're saying this car will handle better then a 26 yr old car with 90's technology?
bogglo
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A worthy successor, IMO, would have been built by Toyota to be a direct competitor to the GT-R, Corvette Z06, NSX, etc.. offered with a manual transmission and priced accordingly. Preferably without a base model, but that's more wishful thinking..
Here's the thing.. I'm excited that this car exists; however, I'm am disgusted that it is the next "Toyota Supra" so many of us have been waiting for all these years.[/QUOTE]
Will you pay $100,000 for a supra? If the answer is no, then you don't need to be disgusted. and if you are willing to pay that much for a supra then the LCF is what you are looking for or you can wait for the specs of the RCF GT it will be up there with Supra in Jan so just pick your poison.
Here's the thing.. I'm excited that this car exists; however, I'm am disgusted that it is the next "Toyota Supra" so many of us have been waiting for all these years.[/QUOTE]
Will you pay $100,000 for a supra? If the answer is no, then you don't need to be disgusted. and if you are willing to pay that much for a supra then the LCF is what you are looking for or you can wait for the specs of the RCF GT it will be up there with Supra in Jan so just pick your poison.
PerformanceSound
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Trust me, I’ve been on the other side of the fence too about the MKV. Look back at my previous posts and comments and you will see I was one of the (if not the) biggest skeptic of the MKV Supra.
However, what I have “heard” up to this point has been aligning with alot of rumors and leaks....which if the remainder of the “sensitive” information is true, there is no doubt in my mind that the MKV Supra will be a superior car to the MKIV....in both stock and modified form.
Again, I know this forum is all about “it’s worthless without pics”, but I feel pretty good about the MKV....the later MKV’s
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However, what I have “heard” up to this point has been aligning with alot of rumors and leaks....which if the remainder of the “sensitive” information is true, there is no doubt in my mind that the MKV Supra will be a superior car to the MKIV....in both stock and modified form.
Again, I know this forum is all about “it’s worthless without pics”, but I feel pretty good about the MKV....the later MKV’s
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AHP
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If you (re)read what I typed then that should have already been inferred. Manual trans, comparable performance metrics to GT-R et al --- I am 100% in.
No manual in the Lexus offerings, no care.
justbake
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At a Macro level, a NSX GTR competitor sounds great I get that, I truly do. But the current NSX and GTR are no longer the cars they once were. The NSX is still hated today among enthusiasts and I don’t think the GTR would be as widely accepted as it is if it wasn’t the first time sold in the US and a bargain in 2007.
AHP
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I named those cars specifically as examples, but really I'm referring to that overall market segment. Essentially today's attainable supercars; the same category the MKIV competed in. Instead, I fear this car will be going head-to-head with base model Camaro and Mustang variants.
DesmoSD
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Yep, this was you beforeTrust me, I’ve been on the other side of the fence too about the MKV. Look back at my previous posts and comments and you will see I was one of the (if not the) biggest skeptic of the MKV Supra.
However, what I have “heard” up to this point has been aligning with alot of rumors and leaks....which if the remainder of the “sensitive” information is true, there is no doubt in my mind that the MKV Supra will be a superior car to the MKIV....in both stock and modified form.
Again, I know this forum is all about “it’s worthless without pics”, but I feel pretty good about the MKV....the later MKV’s
lol
There is no doubt that the MKV will be much more refined and a better handling car then the MKIV. It has to or else it'll be a colossal failure. Comparing them is apples and oranges at this point. We've all seen BMW testing it extensively and it's essentially a BMW Z4 Coupe. There isn't a targa version aka, the "leaky wet noodle" and its going to have 2020 technology. From what I've been reading, this car hasn't truly won the hearts of car enthusiasts because it hasn't quite found a home yet, both from the BMW and Toyota loyalists.
Aside from not offering a 6 speed, I don't feel too much excitement about the MKV.
PerformanceSound
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I get it, and when you say it like that....of course it doesn’t sound exciting. Folks like @A70TTR , @Guff , and some others know more about this car other than “it’s a Z4 with Supra badging.” I wish more exciting details could be shared, but let’s give Toyota a chance to get some spotlight time.Yep, this was you before
There is no doubt that the MKV will be much more refined and a better handling car then the MKIV. It has to or else it'll be a colossal failure. Comparing them is apples and oranges at this point. We've all seen BMW testing it extensively and it's essentially a BMW Z4 Coupe. There isn't a targa version aka, the "leaky wet noodle" and its going to have 2020 technology. From what I've been reading, this car hasn't truly won the hearts of car enthusiasts because it hasn't quite found a home yet, both from the BMW and Toyota loyalists.
Aside from not offering a 6 speed, I don't feel too much excitement about the MKV.
You and I know different things about the MKV, keep that in mind
.justbake
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Paint the picture for me. You named cars that range from $80k to $160k so the segment isnt clear especially since it is hard to consider a NSX attainable and the Z06 a supercar. Performance coupes in general?
I am not asking these questions to be an ass, Im genuinely curious as MK4 owners all seem to know what they dont want but not what they actually want
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