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Discussion in 'General Supra Topics' started by t93, Dec 28, 2018.
Welcome to the 2020's!
I am just confused on why people think that Toyota is blind to BMW reliability concerns. This car would be a nightmare for Toyota if it has the problems of BMW's 10 years ago.
This car may not be as reliable as a 4 cylinder Camry but I dont see it being far off of the Toyota average as we have seen all the time Toyota has spent driving this car. Although it probably won't happen, I wouldn't be surprised if it was the most reliable 6+ cylinder car they have as Toyota likes to overcompensate for things.
Nice, could you also do the rear?
I wonder what next week's leak will be?
All specs and prices
With the general widespread public negative thoughts on the partnership with BMW. I wonder if Toyota regrets partnering with BMW for their flagship sports car.
<-- me every time when I read the comments from the jaloprick thread. Their fanbase are the most biased and brain dead as I have ever seen. Still, they are better than the sh*tshow that is MotorTrend.
Edit: My response to @mkivalex is probably not. They needed an inline-six. Who else to go to other than BMW? Really it boils down to that. They could have done EVERYTHING by themselves because they have all the resources for a good successor to the Supra. But a honest to god really good inline six engine? Well they don't produce any anymore. They weren't going to splurge 1/2 billion or more to create an entirely new series inline-six engine.
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Here we go. Could'nt do exactly the same, because the back view we come from is brighter than the front view.
Watching with keen eye. The prototype has a pretty nice growl from a pretty unique pipe layout. Inline 6 is silky smooth as all BMW's tend to be but with this one, more tuned so, with nearly 17 months of Toyota working on the BMW engine too. Interesting car for sure.
Jalop and their fan base are a bunch of idiots for the most part. A bunch of basement dwellers.
I may not be able to resist one in Voodoo Blue...
Hey, do you know what the difference is between 10 year old BMWs and new ones today reliability wise? Just 10 years of age. All new cars are generally decently reliable. A vehicle's reliability is tested once it has aged and had some serious miles put on it. If people think BMW somehow turned around the last 3 decades of engineering practices in the last few years they are dreaming. Yes the bit about Toyota stress testing all of the mechanical bits put into this car and having them make improvements gives much hope, but at the end of the day they will have had little effect on the drive train components which are shared with other models, and virtually no effect on the way BMW deals with software, ecu tuning, electronics, wiring etc, which has been another sore spot for BMW since... pretty much ever.
Unfortunately the Jalopenik comments section isn't completely off base. I got to say, I haven't spoken to too many Supra and Toyota enthusiasts in real life who are super stoked for this car. I think there is a substantial market for what we are getting though and I am hopeful it will be a great car.
10 years ago when BMW’s first direct injected turbo inline 6 showed issues with damn near every new component they had (as a former N54 owner ask me how I know RIP). The N55 and B58 are different animals
I agree stress testing is different than longevity testing. But this is what I’m saying, let’s not act like Toyota didnt think about that as well. I have enough faith in Toyota to say they won't let this be maintenance disaster that it could have been
Kudos to Dodge, but were people anxiously waiting for the Demon for the past 10 years? Also how many enthusiasts? Tbh, I saw mules of Demon and Hellcat around MI, but didn't care as much. Maybe I'm off as I'm not looking to 700+hp my cars and go to gas station every 5 mins... I didn't mind the every so often hype from Toyota and BMW. kept hopes up and their progress...