Company reveal 2JZ engine conversion kit for new Toyota Supra

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No, You Can't Buy a 2JZ Engine Swap Kit for the 2020 Toyota Supra—Yet

That image you saw of a MkV Supra with a 2JZ under the hood? It's not real. But plenty of people are interested in making it real.

Editor's Note: This story was originally published on February 26, 2019 at 3:35pm. It has since been updated with additional information as indicated below.

You may have seen the image above on social media recently. It's a digital rendering of a 2020 Toyota Supra, with a 2JZ-GTE engine—the legendary 3.0-liter straight-six from the 1993-1998 MkIV Supra Turbo—lurking under the hood. California tuner shop CXRacing posted the image to Facebook and Instagram, with the caption claiming "2JZ-GTE Supra MK5 Swap Kits will be available for pre-order soon."

A number of car websites wrote about the shop's hint at an upcoming 2JZ swap kit. We wanted to know more—about the image, and about what it promises.



For starters, the image isn't real. As a member of the Supra MkV forum pointed out, it's the work of Ted Li, a Taiwanese designer who goes by @flathad3d on Instagram. In an Instagram direct message, Li told me CXRacing used his rendering without his permission. Li told me he just did the rendering for fun—so while his image makes it look like the 2JZ fits perfectly in the engine bay of the new Supra, it's not based on any real-world measurements.

I spoke with a CXRacing employee over the phone. He confirmed that, while the company hopes to offer a 2JZ swap kit for the new Supra in the future, the shop has not begun selling such a kit. More importantly, they have not yet gotten their hands on a 2020 Toyota Supra—which isn't set to arrive at dealerships until the middle of this year.

Update: After this article was first published, a CXRacing representative contacted us, explaining that the shop has 3D-printed prototype parts to swap a 2JZ engine with T4 top-mount twin-turbo manifold and R154 six-speed manual transmission into the 2020 Supra. The representative explained that, while the shop does not currently have a physical MkV Supra in its possession, the prototype parts were designed around a high-resolution 3D scan of the vehicle.

CXRacing has a large presence on eBay, selling turbo equipment and other performance parts. The company offers various engine-swap mounting kits on its website, though nothing is currently listed for the 2020 Supra.

Of course, some enthusiasts will want a 2JZ in their new Supras, as a tribute to the car's heritage and because of that engine's ability to handle huge power gains. You can bet someone will attempt this swap, but as far as we can tell, such a kit doesn't exist at this time. With a few months to go before 2020 Supra production begins, stay skeptical of anyone promising parts for a car that isn't yet on sale.
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An R154 with *six speeds*?? That's news to me. Are they claiming reverse as one of those gears?

Personally I like the R154 but it's a "period" manual transmission. I can't see it in an A90. In a vintage Toyota or other project car it's fine so long as you aren't pushing above 500whp with one (when internal oil pressure begins to become an issue).

A manual 2JZ swap into an A90 should be using a 6-speed Tremec Magnum transmission. Grannas Racing will likely do a great job with this down the road since they already make Magnum swap kits for the A80's and other cars. That's the true successor to the V160's strength and robustness.

Or maybe the BMW M3/M4's 6-speed manual can be adapted with more work involved.
 

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Imagine buying a new car and swapping in a 20 year old, unknown mileage, jdm junkyard motor and a trans that shifts like moving a wooden spoon through a bucket of door knobs
 

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^^ From my own experiece (with a fully rebuilt early R154 using an OEM Soarer extension housing and short shifter) that is not accurate to how those old 5-speeds shift when in good condition. Mine isn’t “butter” smooth but it also is in no way a bucket of rocks with a paddle. It’s fine as a design of the era it came from (mid-80’s).

That aside, it still makes no sense to install what is more or less a JDM muscle car style gearbox with inherent design limitations into a totally modern sports car. The A90 deserves a proper modern and refined six-speed manual transmission, not a 1986 era gearbox that even the MKIV moved on from in production form.

As far as a junkyard 2JZ engine goes, it still makes little sense to do it in this car but if someone does swap one in, why risk anything by not rebuilding it entirely?

Then again, how much power is really being sought out that the B58 can’t handle?

For now, if someone wants 700+++ or four digit horsepower right now... and wants to pay for what it takes to do it... cool. 2JZ it is.

But so long as a factory manual or manual swap kit shows up this new B58 is going to cover everything below that.

And the GRMN will overlap what slack the 2JZ takes up.

I love the turbo JZ engines. Mine is a daily and its great. And so is the freedom of things to try in the aftermarket.

People WILL do 2JZ + manual swaps into A90’s but I don’t think it will be quite that many. And the transmission to pair it with really should be a modern/ish 6-speed... not an R154.
 

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^^ From my own experiece (with a fully rebuilt early R154 using an OEM Soarer extension housing and short shifter) that is not accurate to how those old 5-speeds shift when in good condition. Mine isn’t “butter” smooth but it also is in no way a bucket of rocks with a paddle. It’s fine as a design of the era it came from (mid-80’s).

That aside, it still makes no sense to install what is more or less a JDM muscle car style gearbox with inherent design limitations into a totally modern sports car. The A90 deserves a proper modern and refined six-speed manual transmission, not a 1986 era gearbox that even the MKIV moved on from in production form.

As far as a junkyard 2JZ engine goes, it still makes little sense to do it in this car but if someone does swap one in, why risk anything by not rebuilding it entirely?

Then again, how much power is really being sought out that the B58 can’t handle?

For now, if someone wants 700+++ or four digit horsepower right now... and wants to pay for what it takes to do it... cool. 2JZ it is.

But so long as a factory manual or manual swap kit shows up this new B58 is going to cover everything below that.

And the GRMN will overlap what slack the 2JZ takes up.

I love the turbo JZ engines. Mine is a daily and its great. And so is the freedom of things to try in the aftermarket.

People WILL do 2JZ + manual swaps into A90’s but I don’t think it will be quite that many. And the transmission to pair it with really should be a modern/ish 6-speed... not an R154.
Yup! I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, 1000hp will be very doable with the B58 STOCK bottom-end. So, 600-700hp will be even easier and more reliable. It really makes one question why would anyone want to swap a 2JZ? So that they can brag about their Supra having a Toyota motor instead of a BMW motor? Ok, have at it people.
 

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Yup! I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, 1000hp will be very doable with the B58 STOCK bottom-end. So, 600-700hp will be even easier and more reliable.


You're living in a complete fantasy land. What gives you even a shred of credibility to make such an assertion?
 
 




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