2021 Toyota Supra 3.0 Dyno Results

[supradupra]

Agreed 100% another thing I'm happy about is the solid black LE wheels. I like the design but that half polished, half black look is just awful. I forgot about the seats having Alcantara in the center. That's good for track days. Grippier than leather.

i think i am just past the whole modding thing.....i race motorcycles so there is enough that go into them....the "fun car" thing to me is just buy the best one they make and enjoy it......

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[Dannyvandelft]

i think i am just past the whole modding thing.....i race motorcycles so there is enough that go into them....the "fun car" thing to me is just buy the best one they make and enjoy it......

I'm the same way. I do mostly cosmetic stuff. Wheels, springs, catback, tint. Some interior stuff like start button swap, maybe some footwell lights. That's about it.

 

[justbake]

i think i am just past the whole modding thing.....i race motorcycles so there is enough that go into them....the "fun car" thing to me is just buy the best one they make and enjoy it......

I think a lot of people are project their own values onto others in this conversation. Not everyone tunes or modifies their cars or cares about attention from car shows. I also personally don't plan on modding my cars anymore and the 47 hp difference is something that is worthwhile to me. Also, I don't care to show off what I own and is why I always have buy neutral colored cars (more specifically black but I would also drive grey, silver, white or even midnight blue depending on the car.)

 

[Guff]

Deleted the last few pages of garbage. Read the title again and stay on topic.

 

[kissmyrs]

I think a lot of people are project their own values onto others in this conversation. Not everyone tunes or modifies their cars or cares about attention from car shows. I also personally don't plan on modding my cars anymore and the 47 hp difference is something that is worthwhile to me. Also, I don't care to show off what I own and is why I always have buy neutral colored cars (more specifically black but I would also drive grey, silver, white or even midnight blue depending on the car.)

im really liking that blue though, it gorgeous. Almost all my cars have been white, black or some form of grey, even nardo grey... but that blue is fire.

 

[justbake]

im really liking that blue though, it gorgeous. Almost all my cars have been white, black or some form of grey, even nardo grey... but that blue is fire.

Sadly the 2021 doesn't have a downshift blue option which would have been my choice.

 

[kissmyrs]

Sadly the 2021 doesn't have a downshift blue option which would have been my choice.

Yea, its almost like a chameleon blue in certain light, looks great

 

[supradupra]

im willing to bet that BMW had a whole shelf of the leftover older B58 heads and forced toyota to use them up on the 2020 model.

 

[justbake]

im willing to bet that BMW had a whole shelf of the leftover older B58 heads and forced toyota to use them up on the 2020 model.

The head on the 2020 B58C models were developed at the same time as the head on 2021 B58D models, therefore one is not older than one another. BMW is even slowly transitioning away from the B58 to the B58C in current non M-Sport models and from the B58 to B58D in M-Sport models

 

[Cybermoose]

im willing to bet that BMW had a whole shelf of the leftover older B58 heads and forced toyota to use them up on the 2020 model.

My impression was that they developed the B58B30C for the worldwide market first and then once the car was on sale, deal with emissions testing and release the B58M30O1 for the markets in which that engine would pass emissions. It isn't like they had some ulterior motive - I'd be a solid $20 that getting a car with one engine option to market is a lot faster than getting a car with two engine options, and which option depends on location, to market. They're a corporation, their whole goal is to make money*. More cars on sale earlier = more money, so one engine that meets spec worldwide first.

*no value judgment - this is just literally what the corporate structure is designed to do!

 

[Axix23]

Agreed 100% another thing I'm happy about is the solid black LE wheels. I like the design but that half polished, half black look is just awful. I forgot about the seats having Alcantara in the center. That's good for track days. Grippier than leather.

Funny thing you said the black and polished are ugly bc I asked the dealership can you sell me the car without the wheels and knock off $2,000. Lmao.

 

[Dannyvandelft]

Funny thing you said the black and polished are ugly bc I asked the dealership can you sell me the car without the wheels and knock off $2,000. Lmao.

Yeah I told the wife if we ended up with a premium I'd be ordering a set of Work wheels immediately

 

[Axix23]

Yeah I told the wife if we ended up with a premium I'd be ordering a set of Work wheels immediately

Ask then if they can take money off it and you bring your own wheels... lmao

 

[Dannyvandelft]

Ask then if they can take money off it and you bring your own wheels... lmao

No I like the all black ones. I'm ok keeping them on the car for a while. Maybe put a winter set of tires on them and buy another set of wheels for summer.

 

[Racevideo]

It seems like this thread is getting a little old. I thought I would throw my opinion in. The torque curve between the two engines seems to deviate pretty substantially from 5000 rpm to 6500. I don't usually drive in this range so it probably would not make any difference to me from a performance standpoint. When I was driving today with the throttle about 1/2 to 3/4 way down in sport mode it gave me a pretty spirited ride. I noticed it tended to shift right at 5000 rpm. When I go wide open throttle at higher speeds I can definitely feel the drop in torque over 5000 rpm. If I'm to believe the torque curves published by Car and Driver (the 2020 curve seems pretty accurate by my seat of the pants observation) the 2021 still drops over 5000 rpm but holds a pretty big margin over the 2020. If I had the choice between the two I would probably get the 2021. There would be no reason for me to switch from by 2020 since in my real-world experience there would really be no difference.

I superimposed the two curves.

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