Analysis, Comments & Reactions from the Web about the new Supra

Supra Turbo said:

The A80 made 20hp more than Corvette did in '93. The A90 makes 125hp less than Corvette in 2019. It was also compared to a 964 turbo and even Ferrari 512TR, not simply a Cayman. The A80 was also on par with GT-R horsepower, now its down by 230+. So yes, I'd say it hasn't drifted very far from its original performance relative to competition.

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Well, Toyota did make a sports car that fit that description, just not badge as "Supra", but badge as "LFA". Back in '11, LFA was compared with other sports car like Porsche, Ferrari, Lamborghini and so on. Pretty much got same kinda review as A80 Supra aka too expensive. Both LFA and GTR had bout same amount of hp. So in that view, why you're not buying LFA is my biggest question.

Oh one more thing, Japan had hp restriction, so all their sports car back in 90's (early '00) only had 280hp. This is why GTR, Supra, Rx7, NSX or any Japanese sports car back then only made maxed out at 280hp. Of course, that hp restrict didn't happen in US, so US Supra made 40 more hp. This is another reason why A90 Supra have low hp. Some countries have some hp classification that require extra tax (or something like that), so they focused on tq more than HP... so Tada-san claims.

Rotaryrunner said:

Well Supra Turbo, it looks like the A90 isn't a car for you then.

So pass on this one and stop arguing. Toyota wont change the car to you're demands.

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No one is arguing princess... a forum is for discussions. Apparently you didn't read the thread title either...

justbake said:

There are more than just HP stats on the back of your baseball card.

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Good one Sherlock. Did it take you a while to think of that educated response?

Supra Turbo said:

The A80 made 20hp more than Corvette did in '93. The A90 makes 125hp less than Corvette in 2019. It was also compared to a 964 turbo and even Ferrari 512TR, not simply a Cayman. The A80 was also on par with GT-R horsepower, now its down by 230+. So yes, I'd say it hasn't drifted very far from its original performance relative to competition.

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Look at the recent Car and Driver Dyno results posted here and get back to me. But, before that, these numbers aren't surprising, as the measured performance didn't add up, relative to it's claimed horsepower. Horsepower seems to be what matters to you.

The GTR went upscale, and look what happened to it. Same with the NSX. Most people stopped buying them. Toyota did the right thing by making the car more attainable than these other creations that can only be had by the rich. Also, who wants to buy a $100,000 Toyota? Maybe you do, but the rationale is weak, as you represent an extremely minuscule handful of people. Should Toyota build a car just for you?

Supra Turbo said:

The NSX example was meant to convey the difference in power the two cars make between generations with the new Supra severely lacking in that aspect compared to NSX and GT-R.

Read my previous posts and try to comprehend for a second. What does your post have to do with me not caring if Toyota sells more Supra's? It's a halo car, IMO it should not be sold in large volumes or expecting a profit.

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Yes, and those two cars are out of the reach for normal people. One of them also happens to be a total sales flop, but ok.

lol. Again, it was not Toyota's plan to just sale a hand full of them in Europe and the US. Just because you keep repeating the same lines over and over doesn't mean that it is true. Even A70 has said Toyota was hoping to sale way more A80s then they did. That's great you have an opinion, but you also are not the one that running a company that is responsible for the employment of countless people, meeting regulations, and dealing with shareholders and board members. Just in case you missed it poor sales lend to the demise of your almight MK4.

I think the presence of the MkV will invigorate the tuner market (again, like the 86 did) and even lead to more stuff being produced for the mk4 (As well as increase it's value), and giving a new platform to play with. Win-win-win really.

ichitaka05 said:

Well, Toyota did make a sports car that fit that description, just not badge as "Supra", but badge as "LFA". Back in '11, LFA was compared with other sports car like Porsche, Ferrari, Lamborghini and so on. Pretty much got same kinda review as A80 Supra aka too expensive. Both LFA and GTR had bout same amount of hp. So in that view, why you're not buying LFA is my biggest question.

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No manual, doesn't count

dgh said:

Look at the recent Car and Driver Dyno results posted here and get back to me. But, before that, these numbers aren't surprising, as the measured performance didn't add up, relative to it's claimed horsepower. Horsepower seems to be what matters to you.

The GTR went upscale, and look what happened to it. Same with the NSX. Most people stopped buying them. Toyota did the right thing by making the car more attainable than these other creations that can only be had by the rich. Also, who wants to buy a 100,000 Toyota? Maybe you do, but the rationale is weak, as you represent an extremely minuscule handful of people. Should Toyota build a car just for you?

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Look at my post on the Dyno thread over 2 hours ago then get back to me. Again read my previous posts where I explain my rationale for it. It is my opinion, though seems like maybe an unpopular one on this forum. Almost seems like I'm asking for a Veyron on a Civic forum. SMH.

supraboi said:

Yes, and those two cars are out of the reach for normal people. One of them also happens to be a total sales flop, but ok.

lol. Again, it was not Toyota's plan to just sale a hand full of them in Europe and the US. Just because you keep repeating the lines over and over doesn't mean that it is true. Even A70 has said Toyota was hoping to sale way more A80s then they did. Just in case you missed it, sale and poor sales lend to the demise of your almight MK4.

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I'm having to repeat myself because it seems like some people either do not read or unable to comprehend, and that's fine. If Toyota sold way more TT 6sp I would have no desire to own one, or pay the extra premium. Just in case you missed it, the low production volume is what made it more attractive to me.

Supra Turbo said:

I'm having to repeat myself because it seems like some people either do not read or unable to comprehend, and that's fine. If Toyota sold way more TT 6sp I would have no desire to own one, or pay the extra premium. Just in case you missed it, the low production volume is what made it more attractive to me.

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You are acting like this will be the only version of the A90. Several people here that are in the loop have told just that hotter versions of the car are coming. PS told us to think of the current A90 as the equivalent to the NA A80. Ok that's nice, good for you..

supraboi said:

You are acting like this will be the only version of the A90. Several people here that are in the loop have told just that hotter versions of the car are coming. PS told us to think of the current A90 as the equivalent to the NA A80. Ok that's nice, good for you..

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You are acting like I didn't state in my previous comments that I'm not aware of the other versions of the A90. But since you obviously didn't bother reading, I'll again repeat myself. Once that hotter version hits production, hopefully addressing my dissatisfaction with the current model - the discussion will surely change. Until then...

And thanks, I know.

Supra Turbo said:

I'm having to repeat myself because it seems like some people either do not read or unable to comprehend, and that's fine. If Toyota sold way more TT 6sp I would have no desire to own one, or pay the extra premium. Just in case you missed it, the low production volume is what made it more attractive to me.

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So maybe hold the whinging until Toyota delivers a MkV analogue to this?

Come back in 5-10yrs to taunt the forums in case they never do. lol j/k

Supra Turbo said:

You are acting like I didn't state in my previous comments that I'm not aware of the other versions of the A90. But since you obviously didn't bother reading, I'll again repeat myself. Once that hotter version hits production, hopefully addressing my dissatisfaction with the current model - the discussion will surely change. Until then...

And thanks, I know.

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Supra Turbo said:

Impressive. Can't wait to hear more about the GRMN version.

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lol, are you really lecturing me about not reading? You're the one that never address any of my points, but just counter back with your 'opinions'. Either way I'm done. There is no point in conversing with some people. Have a good one sir.

Matador said:

So maybe hold the whinging until Toyota delivers a MkV analogue to this?

Come back in 5-10yrs to taunt the forums in case they never do. lol j/k

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Oh so now because I have a different opinion, I'm whining. Must be the new millennial thing like "totally lit".

supraboi said:

lol, are you really lecturing me about not reading? You're the one that never address any of my points, but just counter back with your 'opinions'. Either way I'm done. There is no point in conversing with some people. Have a good one sir.

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I don't have to address your points. I can respond with my own opinion just like everyone else, whether you like it or not. This thread is to discuss just that. IMO, the dyno numbers are impressive, but that doesn't mean I think the same for the rest of the car.

Supra Turbo said:

Oh so now because I have a different opinion, I'm whining. Must be the new millennial thing like "totally lit".

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No, because you sound like a broken record. A 45 spinning at 33.5 at that.

Matador said:

No, because you sound like a broken record. A 45 spinning at 33.5 at that.

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You're right, I've expressed my opinion... time to move on. No one else worth discussing with here.

Guys
I really think this mkv badly needs a wing
Big mkiv wing
Do you think it will take long time to see it in the market ?

imoj1 said:

Guys
I really think this mkv badly needs a wing
Big mkiv wing
Do you think it will take long time to see it in the market ?

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The chances of one not being available at launch are slim to none.