Oil Level Analysis with EcuTek

[32bitsofGil]

I’m still dealing with oil consumption issues and i revisited this thread for the great info on raw oil level values.

My dealer gave me an oil change and sent me on my way, told me to drive it till 1100 miles and bring it back to see how much the burn is. It’s really nice being able to see raw oil level values right on my phone as the iDrive has given me no indication yet I’m burning oil, but I can see my raw values slipping downward.

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[underdonk]

How did I miss this? Great thread. Thanks for the hard data.

 

[32bitsofGil]

I did about 100 miles last night trying to push my right foot through the firewall. Watched my oil slip from the 93mm mark down to below 90. From my count I should be down 750ml in just 600 miles.

I was effectively told by my dealership to blow the engine, or bring it back when it has 1100 miles. Anything is covered.

 

[MYA90SUPRA]

I did about 100 miles last night trying to push my right foot through the firewall. Watched my oil slip from the 93mm mark down to below 90. From my count I should be down 750ml in just 600 miles.

I was effectively told by my dealership to blow the engine, or bring it back when it has 1100 miles. Anything is covered.

Did you get that in writing haha.

 

[digicidal]

I did about 100 miles last night trying to push my right foot through the firewall. Watched my oil slip from the 93mm mark down to below 90. From my count I should be down 750ml in just 600 miles.

I was effectively told by my dealership to blow the engine, or bring it back when it has 1100 miles. Anything is covered.

That was basically my experience back in '06 with my 350Z - despite ~33% of the new 'RevUp' engines being affected. I did it... and eventually so did they (engine replacement under warranty). Hopefully, this will be the last time you have to deal with it... Toyota seems to be quite a bit better than Nissan in that regard. In my case, it took nearly a year of back and forth before corporate gave the approval.

 

[32bitsofGil]

crazy how much more insight you can have just through watching raw values. I’m probably burning >1 quart every 1000 miles but here is proof iDrive sucks at showing that. I run this test every time I park the car and this is the first time it shows any indication something might be up. I’ll update later on to show the official values when they drain the oil back at Toyota.

iDrive: all good bro
OBD: flirting with 1.5q low

 

[32bitsofGil]

I don’t understand why toyota would honor your warranty with either a JB4 or ECUTek installed? An engineer from Toyota could easily assert that the modification caused a lean condition and inherently the degradation of the piston rings and / or scoring of the cylinder walls. Both of which would cause significant oil consumption and require major repair.

I am bone stock, tracking this info in BimmerLink using another dongle I don’t leave plugged in

 

[A90.C]

It took all of 30 seconds for me to find that you ran a JB4 with FuelIT with questionable practices and ran your engine far too lean. If you’re asserting that you’re “bone stock” to the dealership, the word for this is “warranty fraud”.

Oh damn..

 

[32bitsofGil]

Can you believe this guy? Lol what are you a narc?

The engine parameters are stock, I’m not encouraging anyone to commit warranty fraud. My car burned worse than this when it was still virgin to anything performance mods. I used to get an average of 700 miles per quart of oil.

 

[32bitsofGil]

If I was, I’d be calling up dealerships in Taylor TX to let them know about this Gilbert guy, or finding your last name from your plate, and then sending the screenshots to Toyota Corp. — but instead, I’m here encouraging you to not commit warranty fraud with a friendly message, and since you’re going to do it anyways, at least be smarter.

Your posts before this indicated you wanted a cloned ECU to swap in your stock one before taking it to the dealership, which again, is also known as warranty fraud (see screenshot above).

The forum is not for criminal activity, endorsing it or otherwise. Not only are you stealing from Toyota (whatever I am not an employee or stakeholder) but more importantly, you’re on here spreading misinformation about oil consumption, as if your amount happens to cars off the lot — it just doesn’t, without some level of damage caused by a piggyback system and lack of knowledge, rather than a real tune.

Man you know more about my car than I do. Incredible how over the internet you were able to ascertain that I damaged the engine somehow with my neglect or abuse from a few posts I made…

again, no one is encouraging warranty fraud, and I’m sure my dealership will find out if I did naughty things. It’s quite clear my car burned an unacceptable amount of oil, and it was documented by the dealership far before anything was done to the vehicle.

honestly what do your posts contribute to this discussion? You’re just speculating and throwing shade when you really have no idea what you’re talking about.

 

[Loco38SUP]

Guys let keep this thread on topic. The who said what discussions are for your DMs.

There is nothing to indicate engine damage was caused by lean a condition.

-RJM

 

[32bitsofGil]

You know what, I was trying to be nice, but you make it easy to want to escalate. Let’s do it your way then.

lol no one is escalating but you my guy. I noted above your discussion serves no purpose. You’re just dumping on me to have fun, and no one here digs it.

Guys let keep this thread on topic. The who said what discussions are for your DMs.

There is nothing to indicate engine damage was caused by lean a condition.

-RJM

sorry about this mate not happy about it either. I don’t want your valuable thread locked so I’ll leave it here.

 

[32bitsofGil]

Update: 1200 miles and I will be headed back to the dealership at the minimum level. 1.5q consumed

 

[razorlab]

An engineer from Toyota could easily assert that the modification caused a lean condition and inherently the degradation of the piston rings and / or scoring of the cylinder walls. Both of which would cause significant oil consumption and require major repair.

Define "lean". The Supra runs 14.5 AFR at WOT most of the time. DI engine + emissions. Plenty of supra owners tracking their car with no tune and surprise, it runs 14.5 AFR most of the time WOT on track for 20+ mins.

It only slightly richens up to 13.8 at full throttle down straights 100mph+, deep in 6th gear+.

 

[razorlab]

Weird, it’s almost like they made a code for this exact thing… but yeah, running lean must not be possible.

https://www.supramkv.com/threads/mixture-to-lean-error-118001.13442/

love your snarky tone.

That code is from fuel trims too far out of range. In that instance, it was from too much ethanol (The dude filled up his tank on E85) and the fuel trims couldn't keep up to stay within AFR target. The supra runs closed loop WOT fueling, so fuel trims work in real time to always stay within AFR target.

I believe Gil had only been running the normal mixture that even the owners manual states is okay on a 100% stock Supra. (E25). If Gil didn't get that code, the fuel trims where within operating parameters and the car was able to hit its target AFR.

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