New (Unconfirmed) Details and Specifications of US-Spec MKV Supra:

[mkivalex]

and it also says GT86...

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[supraboi]

This also contradicts ynguldyn's post about the EU-only 195hp 20i. Not to mention the car is known as A90, and not J29.

 

[Jeff Lange]

This also contradicts ynguldyn's post about the EU-only 195hp 20i. Not to mention the car is known as A90, and not J29.

For what it's worth, A90 is marketing right now. I don't expect there to be any use of A90 in any official documentation or chassis codes for this vehicle.

Jeff

 

[HKz]

I’d like to believe they won’t abandon it but.. I extremely doubt this car even getting a refresh. Everything depends on the success of this initial version.

At 335hp and 60k price tag it’ll find the fanboy sales initially and a year later they’ll start celebrating birthday days at dealer lots shortly after. If they diversify the car and cater to more folks such as.. a stripped down version with most powerful motor , manual in stripped and loaded versions, maybe a Targa .. youll see this car succeed. But one model with different power levels and one trans will limit the audience.

they did a refresh on the GT86 with plenty of changes made especially suspension wise and there are plenty of rumors and hints of another go between Toyota & Subaru so why wouldn't this be likely with the Supra? Toyota appears to be quite happy to let other manufacturers/contractors build the niche sports cars and use up their production lines. I doubt Toyota would be dumb enough to hurt their own brand image by killing off their enthusiast marketed vehicles all over again. Besides the LFA & 2000GT, Toyota rarely kills off their models quickly.

You're still bashing it on the supposed unconfirmed paper specs, it means nothing yet.

 

[supraboi]

For what it's worth, A90 is marketing right now. I don't expect there to be any use of A90 in any official documentation or chassis codes for this vehicle.

Jeff

But it isn't even recently, they already told us this way back when the GR Supra concept debut at Geneva in March. Also everyone that attended the private event at the Toyota dealer has said the 6 cyl has 350hp (also well as A70TTR), not 335hp.

 

[vb22]

Maybe that list is just for Europe? Remember the North American Z4 comes with 382hp vs the EU spec 335hp.

 

[2JZ-No-Sh*t]

But it isn't even recently, they already told us this way back when the GR Supra concept debut at Geneva in March. Also everyone that attended the private event at the Toyota dealer has said the 6 cyl has 350hp (also well as A70TTR), not 335hp.

Even if that's true, yay 15hp bump.

 

[lemetier]

So to expand more, here’s the G29 Z4 (ZF Transmission Technical Application Guide)

The production dates go back to engineering freeze and the ones with no end date so far are the final production transmissions.

With the J29, there are only 2 models listed (equivalent to the Z4 30i and RoW M40i). That leaves a 3rd that

A: Doesn’t have a ZF transmission
B: BMW is not the applicant for the Emissions Certificate (the older SPX data list - German for Shared Emissions Index)

As to the GT86 reference, thats something for another discussion.

 

[vb22]

As to the GT86 reference, thats something for another discussion.

4 cyl for a second gen Toyota 86 / BMW Z3?

 

[MA617M]

4 cyl for a second gen Toyota 86 / BMW Z3?

that's my assumption. it makes sense with the "Supra is inline 6" theme.

 

[MA617M]

Those numbers are abysmal if even remotely close to being true. ^

dates are engineering design freeze IIRC

 

[2JZ-No-Sh*t]

With the J29, there are only 2 models listed (equivalent to the Z4 30i and RoW M40i). That leaves a 3rd that

A: Doesn’t have a ZF transmission
B: BMW is not the applicant for the Emissions Certificate (the older SPX data list - German for Shared Emissions Index)

So there is still hope for a manual?

 

[BrettS]

So there is still hope for a manual?

Or it’s the bmw dct

 

[lemetier]

4 cyl for a second gen Toyota 86 / BMW Z3?

An accidental GT86 MK2 entry or possibly an old reference not deleted. I truly believe from everything I’ve physically seen with my own eyes, the G/J29 mates evolved into different cars than what either company originally wanted to start with.

 

[Nurburgring]

Interesting.
That ZF Guideline is very close to final BMW horsepower specifications, so it should be pretty close for the Supra too.
As for using a "regular" B58, that just makes a lot of sense for cost savings, although A70TTR has pointed in a different direction (BMW iron block with a Toyota modified head).
We keep waiting in semi-darkness I guess.

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