Race Tracking Your Supra - Information exchange

[Islindur]

I am saying if GRMN is the same powertrain as our Supras but just a bit tighter suspension and similar aero to anniversary edition it’ll be was of money form someone who seriously
tracks their cars considering higher pricing and dealer markups.

Maybe I am out of the loop, is GRMN confirmed to be some insane track weapon or something?

Not, speculations at this time. B58 for 99% if the testing mule in other thread happens to be grmn after all. Has some other aero bits and prob 390 brakes btw.

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[razorlab]

I am saying if GRMN is the same powertrain as our Supras but just a bit tighter suspension and similar aero to anniversary edition it’ll be was of money form someone who seriously
tracks their cars considering higher pricing and dealer markups.

Maybe I am out of the loop, is GRMN confirmed to be some insane track weapon or something?

I was confused about your statement as even the “normal” Supra has proven to be a track weapon. From what we can see so far, the GRMN or whatever it will be called has larger front brakes, front and rear aero and either a whole new rear diff or a very large diff cooling cover.

The rear wing is more cayman GT4 style and looks adjustable. Keep in mind there are pedestrian safety laws that the spoiler has to adhere to, which limits the size.

I’m the most excited to see what the deal is with the rear diff and what suspension upgrades it has.

 

[Islindur]

Keep in mind there are pedestrian safety laws that the spoiler has to adhere to, which limits the size.

Meanwhile gt3rs:

 

[razorlab]

Meanwhile gt3rs:

I’m sure there is some loophole like very limited production or some such.

Also, afaik, it has a lot to do with the end plate design. If you notice the end plates are rather thick and rounded. I actually have a deep scar on one of my shoulders from around 10 years ago from standing up into a wang endplate after strapping the car down on the dyno. I was bleeding all over the place. The dyno room looked like a murder zone after that.

 

[Rocksandblues]

Friends gt4 wing today at member club day

 

[razorlab]

Friends gt4 wing today at member club day

Yup, notice how rounded, smooth, and thick the endplates are.

I believe you cannot run certain wings, endplates and width during public days at the Nurburbring. I don't think our Verus wangs would pass.

Misha has commented on this in his videos, as well as Speed Industries when they were designing their Supra wang. They even mention that here in this video:

 

[SuupYota]

Friends gt4 wing today at member club day

What a beautiful wing. Damn. My heart

 

[GRMan]

Even a regular GT3 has a normal size wing instead of the midget wing on the ‘GRMN’ test mule

 

[razorlab]

Even a regular GT3 has a normal size wing instead of the midget wing on the ‘GRMN’ test mule

I don't think they are building a GT3 level car with the GRMN. Let's be realistic here, shall we?

 

[GRMan]

I don't think they are building a GT3 level car with the GRMN. Let's be realistic here, shall we?

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[baagel]

Second time out at Big Willow and was very happy with my personal improvement! Didn't time myself but built a lot more confidence in carrying speed through the corners.

Got too cocky with the fuel tank and experienced my first fuel starvation limp mode!

Got too cocky in my last session on turn 9 and became a 100 mph lawn mower! I knew my line was off but still decided to carry that speed in and severely understeered.

PSA from your friendly neighborhood HPDE 1 driver - too much confidence is also a bad thing ?

 

[AndyK5]

Got too cocky in my last session on turn 9 and became a 100 mph lawn mower! I knew my line was off but still decided to carry that speed in and severely understeered.

100mph on big willow Turn 9 and HPDE1 does not add up. Most HPDE 3-4 guys can't carry 100 mph through Turn 9 without a lot of track oriented modifications AFAIK.

 

[Rocksandblues]

Second time out at Big Willow and was very happy with my personal improvement! Didn't time myself but built a lot more confidence in carrying speed through the corners.

Got too cocky with the fuel tank and experienced my first fuel starvation limp mode!

Got too cocky in my last session on turn 9 and became a 100 mph lawn mower! I knew my line was off but still decided to carry that speed in and severely understeered.

PSA from your friendly neighborhood HPDE 1 driver - too much confidence is also a bad thing ?

Hard for instructors these days. Video games and nannies build way too much unrealistic confidence until physics overwhelms even the best nannies.

Glad you are ok!

Was talking to a head Instructor at club day today they are debating a new rule: pulling instructed people in if your stability control activates more than twice in a session. Nannies are very good, almost too good. amazing how students can't even feel or tell when they activate.

 

[FLtrackdays]

100mph on big willow Turn 9 and HPDE1 does not add up. Most HPDE 3-4 guys can't carry 100 mph through Turn 9 without a lot of track oriented modifications AFAIK.

If he‘s at the beginning of his HPDE tracking/hobby, they tend to massively threshold brake and abruptly turn in, if trying to go faster. What else can you do when trail braking isn’t in your arsenal yet? I would like to think over the years as I got faster, I also got smoother. Hence less tank sloshing, so to speak.

For myself, the only time my car has “cut out” has been when I’ve had my JB4 on. I forget to turn it off from the street. Anyways, that’s just my experience. Not everyone will be the same. Various track skill, mods, conditions, etc.

 

[baagel]

100mph on big willow Turn 9 and HPDE1 does not add up. Most HPDE 3-4 guys can't carry 100 mph through Turn 9 without a lot of track oriented modifications AFAIK.

I was (successfully) completing turn 9 at 90-95 mph at the apex. I'm not perfect by any means, just something I was able to reproduce throughout the day.

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