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Meanwhile gt3rs:

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I’m sure there is some loophole like very limited production or some such.

Also, afaik, it has a lot to do with the end plate design. If you notice the end plates are rather thick and rounded. I actually have a deep scar on one of my shoulders from around 10 years ago from standing up into a wang endplate after strapping the car down on the dyno. I was bleeding all over the place. The dyno room looked like a murder zone after that.

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Yup, notice how rounded, smooth, and thick the endplates are.

I believe you cannot run certain wings, endplates and width during public days at the Nurburbring. I don't think our Verus wangs would pass.

Misha has commented on this in his videos, as well as Speed Industries when they were designing their Supra wang. They even mention that here in this video:

 

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Even a regular GT3 has a normal size wing instead of the midget wing on the ‘GRMN’ test mule

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Second time out at Big Willow and was very happy with my personal improvement! Didn't time myself but built a lot more confidence in carrying speed through the corners.

Got too cocky with the fuel tank and experienced my first fuel starvation limp mode!

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Got too cocky in my last session on turn 9 and became a 100 mph lawn mower! I knew my line was off but still decided to carry that speed in and severely understeered.

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PSA from your friendly neighborhood HPDE 1 driver - too much confidence is also a bad thing 🤣
 

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Got too cocky in my last session on turn 9 and became a 100 mph lawn mower! I knew my line was off but still decided to carry that speed in and severely understeered.
100mph on big willow Turn 9 and HPDE1 does not add up. Most HPDE 3-4 guys can't carry 100 mph through Turn 9 without a lot of track oriented modifications AFAIK.
 

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Second time out at Big Willow and was very happy with my personal improvement! Didn't time myself but built a lot more confidence in carrying speed through the corners.

Got too cocky with the fuel tank and experienced my first fuel starvation limp mode!

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Got too cocky in my last session on turn 9 and became a 100 mph lawn mower! I knew my line was off but still decided to carry that speed in and severely understeered.

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PSA from your friendly neighborhood HPDE 1 driver - too much confidence is also a bad thing 🤣

Hard for instructors these days. Video games and nannies build way too much unrealistic confidence until physics overwhelms even the best nannies.

Glad you are ok!

Was talking to a head Instructor at club day today they are debating a new rule: pulling instructed people in if your stability control activates more than twice in a session. Nannies are very good, almost too good. amazing how students can't even feel or tell when they activate.
 

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100mph on big willow Turn 9 and HPDE1 does not add up. Most HPDE 3-4 guys can't carry 100 mph through Turn 9 without a lot of track oriented modifications AFAIK.
If he‘s at the beginning of his HPDE tracking/hobby, they tend to massively threshold brake and abruptly turn in, if trying to go faster. What else can you do when trail braking isn’t in your arsenal yet? I would like to think over the years as I got faster, I also got smoother. Hence less tank sloshing, so to speak.

For myself, the only time my car has “cut out” has been when I’ve had my JB4 on. I forget to turn it off from the street. Anyways, that’s just my experience. Not everyone will be the same. Various track skill, mods, conditions, etc.
 

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100mph on big willow Turn 9 and HPDE1 does not add up. Most HPDE 3-4 guys can't carry 100 mph through Turn 9 without a lot of track oriented modifications AFAIK.
I was (successfully) completing turn 9 at 90-95 mph at the apex. I'm not perfect by any means, just something I was able to reproduce throughout the day.

 

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I was (successfully) completing turn 9 at 90-95 mph at the apex. I'm not perfect by any means, just something I was able to reproduce throughout the day.


I ain't calling you a liar btw, it’s just 100mph thru there is like dunking in basketball. A small percent of everyone who plays can do that and if you are you should def not be in HPDE1.


Now 90mph sounds a lot more reasonable as thats still really fast and easy to get off with.
 

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I ain't calling you a liar btw, it’s just 100mph thru there is like dunking in basketball. A small percent of everyone who plays can do that and if you are you should def not be in HPDE1.
I mean, he wasn't able to do it, he flew off the track. Wasn't that the whole point of his post? lol.

Ya'll acting like you have never gone on a off-tarmac excursion before.
 

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I mean, he wasn't able to do it, he flew off the track. Wasn't that the whole point of his post? lol.

Ya'll acting like you have never gone on a off-tarmac excursion before.
Yeah...my confusion was that usually HPDE1 guys don't have the balls to hit there at 100Mph whether they make it or not. If you are not used to track speeds your brain pulls the plug before you and people lift/brake. Again, not saying it did not happen, just means it is very much out of the ordinary.
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