The Development Story of the MKV Supra

[PerformanceSound]

Your friends are dicks!

Speaking of which, I had to pull my dash apart to replace the CEL module since mine stopped working (very common and had a broken solder joint). If I remember correctly, if you bought a new odometer module from Toyota, they had to input the milage. So if that person cheated, it would probably show up on the carfax report.

My friends are dicks I will agree with you on that...hehe.

Replacing the odo to a new one would not fall in this category, it’s the odometers that were/are healthy....which many many are. Those won’t show up in the CarFax.

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[Kaahari]

One of the signs back in the day on MKIV’s was the warped top of the dash....this only happened when people would pry on the upper cluster to remove it. I’m talking before people were swapping clusters

That`s BS. Upper trim piece is mounted with screws to dashboard from below and there is two fasteners on side of this trim piece and odo mount. Basicly, the part falls a bit when screws are removed and you need just pull this part backward to remove it, not pry. Atleast not from that area. If you have to pry it somewhere on removal, location is from sides. Dashboard "skeleton" is actually very hard plastic type material, it wont warp, it cracks.

So, "warping" of dash upper part... actually, it wont warp: cover/top material gets loose from dash skeleton due heat and because part is just getting old. Surfaces are too narrow between dash cover material and dash skeleton on edge, glue gets old etc, worst (=thinnest) place is above odo. Seen in many j-spec and us spec cars.

 

[chnco]

The amount of incorrect information in your post validated my point.

• To Kaahari’s point, it’s several screws that mount this piece and doesn’t even require “prying” to take off. In order to have this warping, you’d intentionally have to pry/push in that area
• Even if this was the case, this piece is taken off for a variety of reasons and mods: LED backlighting of gauges, white face gauges, TRD odometer, JDM cluster faces, Motec Racepak, etc, etc
• You’re saying every single person that has performed these mods have altered their odometer? Give me a break
• I’m happy to take a picture of my dash when I get home from business Monday
• Take a picture of your MKIV dash
• Name your friends so that we ensure we don’t have fraudulent sales out there, it would be a benefit to the community

FYI: I’ve had my Supra since 1999 and I’m a moderator on SupraForums. I’m sure you can figure out the correlation between the dates and movie

To say most MKIV’s haven’t had this done is even more asinine. After the F&F, many MKIV owners (especially the 6spd TT cars) had this done to retain value when reselling. You were probably too young to even know this. Because the ecu doesn’t record the miles like on newer cars, all they did was disconnect the odo and drive it until resale time.

One of the signs back in the day on MKIV’s was the warped top of the dash....this only happened when people would pry on the upper cluster to remove it. I’m talking before people were swapping clusters (Auto to 6spd), etc... when there was NO NEED to get behind the cluster. Supra’s werent known for many cluster failures. Many many MKIV owners have swapped their dashboards because of this.

Go into your garage and take a pic of your upper dash by the cluster....curious to see if you have had any “work done” on your gauge cluster. I have several friends who own MKIV’s, all of which currently have their odo’s disconnected....and i will NEVER mention their names .

 

[Therealist]

The amount of incorrect information in your post validated my point.

• To Kaahari’s point, it’s several screws that mount this piece and doesn’t even require “prying” to take off. In order to have this warping, you’d intentionally have to pry/push in that area
• Even if this was the case, this piece is taken off for a variety of reasons and mods: LED backlighting of gauges, white face gauges, TRD odometer, JDM cluster faces, Motec Racepak, etc, etc
• You’re saying every single person that has performed these mods have altered their odometer? Give me a break
• I’m happy to take a picture of my dash when I get home from business Monday
• Take a picture of your MKIV dash
• Name your friends so that we ensure we don’t have fraudulent sales out there, it would be a benefit to the community

FYI: I’ve had my Supra since 1999 and I’m a moderator on SupraForums. I’m sure you can figure out the correlation between the dates and movie

I didn’t think anyone could be as inconsistent or incorrect as this but performancesound proved me wrong.

 

[Turbro]

The amount of incorrect information in your post validated my point.

• To Kaahari’s point, it’s several screws that mount this piece and doesn’t even require “prying” to take off. In order to have this warping, you’d intentionally have to pry/push in that area
• Even if this was the case, this piece is taken off for a variety of reasons and mods: LED backlighting of gauges, white face gauges, TRD odometer, JDM cluster faces, Motec Racepak, etc, etc
• You’re saying every single person that has performed these mods have altered their odometer? Give me a break
• I’m happy to take a picture of my dash when I get home from business Monday
• Take a picture of your MKIV dash
• Name your friends so that we ensure we don’t have fraudulent sales out there, it would be a benefit to the community

FYI: I’ve had my Supra since 1999 and I’m a moderator on SupraForums. I’m sure you can figure out the correlation between the dates and movie

This is is absolutely accurate. I’ve also been in the Supra world for 15 years and admin multiple forums before.

People sayings “majority” of owners disconnect the odo on purpose is asinine. Yes some sleazy assholes probably did, like .1% of owners, but no one really does this. And no one fucking pulls up on the dash board right there for that when it’s super easy to remove the screws.

They are known to have bad solder joints for sure, mine did and I fixed it when I noticed it didn’t count for a few miles. And maybe some people don’t fix it because they are lazy but to assume everyone does it is obsurd

 

[shrapnel]

So even Toyota Germany is promoting your Video

 

[Australian of The North]

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[RyanGT3RS]

Don't know about you, but I run into MkIV haters like this all too often unfortunately.
People who just hate on the MkIV for any reason they can find or make s#1t up about.
Rarely is it other genuine MkIV owners, mostly its people who wanted a MkIV and couldn't get one, so they hate on it with a passion.

Usually its jealously, other times its just plain hate or revenge - typically because they aren't in the spot light, or have become obsessed with another car(like an MkV) to which the MkIV, is a serious threat. The number of times I've met "supposed" mkiv supra owners who massively hate on the car isn't funny.

There is Mkiv supra-tax, and there's is Mkiv supra-hate. - Unfortunate part of ownership of the MkIV I've found.

Fortunately, with this new car's release, I think the MkV fanboys are doing a great job of taking over that problem with their next level with their attitude problem, plus putting this car up on a golden pedestal. Here on this site, Its insecurity and a threat response they have, because the MkV simply isn't measuring up.

So when the MkIV gets brought up, most of the time they go for the jugular to shut it down - like owners/clubs and their supposed "elitists attitudes", they go for anything they can on the car - like this ODO BS, or how they supposedly have "been to loads of funerals for MkIV owners".. its all total f'kn hs#t. Its also not trolling, they genuine believe the crap they come up with, and they defend it fiercely it in the face of any and all logic.

As opposed to all your previous posts, you type paragraphs after paragraphs of your “hate” towards the new mk5, a car, that’s not even out yet, but you seem to know how it drives and what a failure of a car it’s going to be.

Oh, the irony. Contradicting yourself here. Lol

 

[Therealist]

Don't know about you, but I run into MkIV haters like this all too often unfortunately.
People who just hate on the MkIV for any reason they can find or make s#1t up about.
Rarely is it other genuine MkIV owners, mostly its people who wanted a MkIV and couldn't get one, so they hate on it with a passion.

Usually its jealously, other times its just plain hate or revenge - typically because they aren't in the spot light, or have become obsessed with another car(like an MkV) to which the MkIV, is a serious threat. The number of times I've met "supposed" mkiv supra owners who massively hate on the car isn't funny.

There is Mkiv supra-tax, and there's is Mkiv supra-hate. - Unfortunate part of ownership of the MkIV I've found.

Fortunately, with this new car's release, I think the MkV fanboys are doing a great job of taking over that problem with their next level with their attitude problem, plus putting this car up on a golden pedestal. Here on this site, Its insecurity and a threat response they have, because the MkV simply isn't measuring up.

So when the MkIV gets brought up, most of the time they go for the jugular to shut it down - like owners/clubs and their supposed "elitists attitudes", they go for anything they can on the car - like this ODO BS, or how they supposedly have "been to loads of funerals for MkIV owners".. its all total f'kn hs#t. Its also not trolling, they genuine believe the crap they come up with, and they defend it fiercely it in the face of any and all logic.

I find it interesting how a lot of this behaviour is perpetrated by moderators. I mean it’s not surprising but interesting how there’s no smoke without fire

 

[jm6k]

The amount of incorrect information in your post validated my point.

• To Kaahari’s point, it’s several screws that mount this piece and doesn’t even require “prying” to take off. In order to have this warping, you’d intentionally have to pry/push in that area
• Even if this was the case, this piece is taken off for a variety of reasons and mods: LED backlighting of gauges, white face gauges, TRD odometer, JDM cluster faces, Motec Racepak, etc, etc
• You’re saying every single person that has performed these mods have altered their odometer? Give me a break
• I’m happy to take a picture of my dash when I get home from business Monday
• Take a picture of your MKIV dash
• Name your friends so that we ensure we don’t have fraudulent sales out there, it would be a benefit to the community

FYI: I’ve had my Supra since 1999 and I’m a moderator on SupraForums. I’m sure you can figure out the correlation between the dates and movie

Nah man, you're just too young to know what he's talking about.

 

[Therealist]

Nah man, you're just too young to know what he's talking about.

More likely that he’s not “too young” and performancesound doesn’t know what he’s talking about

 

[A70TTR]

I've known several A80 owners that disconnected the speedo/odo on their cars (this was in a large city with a decent sized Supra population, and it has been a decade since I lived there)...

That said, I would never say most, but I wouldn't say it was super rare either lol.

 

[Therealist]

I've known several A80 owners that disconnected the speedo/odo on their cars (this was in a large city with a decent sized Supra population, and it has been a decade since I lived there)...

That said, I would never say most, but I wouldn't say it was super rare either lol.

Pretty disgusting.

In the U.K. I’ve not heard of anyone doing this and I would never do it myself either

 

[Turbro]

I've known several A80 owners that disconnected the speedo/odo on their cars (this was in a large city with a decent sized Supra population, and it has been a decade since I lived there)...

That said, I would never say most, but I wouldn't say it was super rare either lol.

Not sure who you are hanging around... lol

But here in my area, I was the admin of our local supra club for 10 years w/ 115 supra owners (most mkiv) and maybe 1 or 2 of them ever did this. They were shitty people and got banned anyways for other things like trying to rip other members off on used parts...But almost all our members are good people with no intention to rip people off by doing this...

Im not saying it doesnt happen, but its super rare around here...

 

[A70TTR]

These are people that are still very well known in the Supra community and are otherwise normal owners haha. Oh well.

I think the thing is that no one is gonna say they do it, at least not to just anyone, so you may be surprised who's doing it. I know I was surprised at first.

This isn't unique to Supras though so. I've also never done it and don't plan to personally...

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