Featured Car & Driver Dyno Results: The 2020 Toyota Supra Makes More Power Than Toyota Claims

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    I don't know why they just wouldn't put a proper screenshot when the article is titled Supra Dyno Results... lazy? Not trusting their results???
     
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    Bmw usually underrate their engine power. Glad to see Toyota did the same.
     
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    Over 500ft-lbs and just under 400hp at the crank...? Yikes! That's one hell of a stock engine!

    Aside, no wonder a bespoke manual and clutch had to be developed.

    Once modification factors in I can only imagine the torque this B58 will be producing. Which begs another question: what will the thermal limits of the stock twin scroll turbo be?
     
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    #20 May 21, 2019
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    Remember torque his multiplied to the rear wheels, not lost, like power.

    Also power outputs are to DIN specification which states MINIMUM power output.

    Same for my Benz: 437whp on a car with 456hp advertised

     
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    Easter egg
     
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    :rofl::rofl::rofl:

    Here's hoping that this applies through production and it's not a "ringer". Fully expected that those 335 were whp though.

    :headbang::drive:

    Queue the "Waahhh but why doesn't the MkV have 380whp like the Z4" posts. :rolleyes:
     
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    LOL. I see what you did there.

    "276hp".
     
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    Annoyed that 1) they don't show the full graph and 2) HP and TQ are scaled differently (otherwise HP/TQ would intersect at 5252). :rant: Overall very interesting results, though..! I'm not at all surprised at the WHP, based on the 113MPH trap speed. The peak TQ number is really impressive but it really lays down quickly up top. Peak TQ sub-3000RPM is great for 0-60 but you're generally well over that in just about every driving situation once moving. Also noting it lost a tangible amount of power with each pull, presumably from heatsoak --- would love to see a datalog of pre and post-intercooler intake temps. Would also LOVE to see the boost curve..
     
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    NOOOO WAYYYY HOLY SH*T AAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!! <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 TALK ABOUT TOYOTA AND BMW POWER WOOOOOOOO!! CHOKE ON THAT HATERS.
     
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    Does this mean the Z4 puts down 385 WHP, or does it mean that the z4 and supra engines are practically identical to one another?
     
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    We need to find a Z4 dyno. Off to search the recesses of the interwebs
     
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    Likely a result of the 5th gear pull.
     
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    A lot of the hate could have easily been mitigated by Toyota advertising the actual numbers out the gate vs. sandbagging. I'm sure there are some 'relationship' factors playing into this... Advertised specs or otherwise, my concern is almost entirely around the longer-term with respect to reliability and serviceability. BMW's are generally great as long as you're under warranty and don't mind the courtesy loaner semi-regularly. Time will tell...
     
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