Clutch Slipping on stock A91 MT...

[DGINR8supra]

Looking at the 1000 series at the moment. Looks like a unit

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[swrdply400mrelay]

I wonder if that @clutchman guy is a CM employee... Either way I'm very impressed with the pricing actually, and love the various options in holding power and engagement characteristics. That said, it is disappointing to not have solid numbers of HP, & especially TQ capacities of these offerings.

My guess is Action Clutch

 

[ColonelAdama]

The VW folks are all too familiar with this when you start adding modifications.

I can't catch a break man apparently I only buy cars with paper clutches.

 

[Knoxengineering]

Clutch Masters is right up the street from me and I am actually good friends with them. Could probably talk them into a group buy if you guys are interested.

Hey Sean,

Appreciate you looking out for us MT owners

Brandon K

 

[mdpalmer]

That said, it is disappointing to not have solid numbers of HP, & especially TQ capacities of these offerings.

Go to 2:50 in this video and CM says a few things about that, not a whole lot of info unfortunately.




Also have you guys seen this? Wonder how the clutch is doing on that A91-MT? Bro has some ridiculous driving skills

 

[Evolution]

Hey Sean,

Appreciate you looking out for us MT owners

Brandon K

I just feel bad for you guys for having a slower car and more problems than us auto folk

Joking aside, I don't mind helping out the Supra community when I can.

 

[UYCR]

Clutch Masters is right up the street from me and I am actually good friends with them. Could probably talk them into a group buy if you guys are interested.

I haven't even gotten to 800 miles on mine but wouldn't mind having a spare clutch laying around in case the oem one decides to bite the dust at the track.

 

[FuzzyRev]

Also have you guys seen this? Wonder how the clutch is doing on that A91-MT? Bro has some ridiculous driving skills

Yes, he has amazing skills, but the car is quite the dance partner too. One thing I have to point out, again, is if you own a 21-22 or especially a 2020, and HAVE NOT yet driven a 2023 MT in a spirited fashion, it's truly impossible to know how much better sorted the chassis & differential tuning is compared to the previous versions. Yes, the 2023 AT has been reworked as well, but it doesn't have THAT DIFF. As two-time MKV owners, @NitroYellowMKV (2020) and myself (2021) were finishing each other's sentences in our amazement of the car's 'reborn' character during my steering-wheel-order phone call...

 

[ColonelAdama]

Yes, he has amazing skills, but the car is quite the dance partner too. One thing I have to point out, again, is if you own a 21-22 or especially a 2020, and HAVE NOT yet driven a 2023 MT in a spirited fashion, it's truly impossible to know how much better sorted the chassis & differential tuning is compared to the previous versions. Yes, the 2023 AT has been reworked as well, but it doesn't have THAT DIFF. As two-time MKV owners, @NitroYellowMKV (2020) and myself (2021) were finishing each other's sentences in our amazement of the car's 'reborn' character during my steering-wheel-order phone call...

Wish I had driven a 20-22 MY to compare, but the diff in the 23 is ridiculous! Traction for days! The hairpin feature is no joke either, car rotates wonderfully powering out of a tight corner. Almost feels like you're starting to lose the rear but its completely planted.

Even passengers have made comments about it during mountain runs. They think its starting to slide, but I have full confidence in the grip. Only other car I drove where the corner exit accel felt as good was the M2 Comp.

My only complaint with the car is that I have noticed some degree of bump steer. And that was before I even knew what bump-steer was, so its not placebo. Apparently a known issue on these cars. Not pleasant for the wheel to jerk sideways over a relatively mild bump at higher speeds. that and the steering wheel vibration at 60-62 mph... seriously???

 

[Kolme]

/shrug I really don’t seem to have much issues with cornering in the 22’ stays well planted with great feedback and no slip even on these poo poo OEM tires. The bump steer isn’t something I’ve really noticed either. But I figure if people want to have the possibly improved handling of the 2023 - then a few reasonable and light mods will probably get you there. Glad Toyota keeps updating either way.

 

[MA617M]

Yes, he has amazing skills, but the car is quite the dance partner too. One thing I have to point out, again, is if you own a 21-22 or especially a 2020, and HAVE NOT yet driven a 2023 MT in a spirited fashion, it's truly impossible to know how much better sorted the chassis & differential tuning is compared to the previous versions. Yes, the 2023 AT has been reworked as well, but it doesn't have THAT DIFF. As two-time MKV owners, @NitroYellowMKV (2020) and myself (2021) were finishing each other's sentences in our amazement of the car's 'reborn' character during my steering-wheel-order phone call...

Good to know. I loved my 2019 AT, so will be keen to compare when my 6MT arrives next week.

 

[zrk]

Yes, he has amazing skills, but the car is quite the dance partner too. One thing I have to point out, again, is if you own a 21-22 or especially a 2020, and HAVE NOT yet driven a 2023 MT in a spirited fashion, it's truly impossible to know how much better sorted the chassis & differential tuning is compared to the previous versions. Yes, the 2023 AT has been reworked as well, but it doesn't have THAT DIFF. As two-time MKV owners, @NitroYellowMKV (2020) and myself (2021) were finishing each other's sentences in our amazement of the car's 'reborn' character during my steering-wheel-order phone call...

Sure but it's slow.

 

[STi_to_GRzupra]

Yes, the 2023 AT has been reworked as well, but it doesn't have THAT DIFF.

Are the dampers on the 20-21 different than the 23’?

I have driven two 2021 with stock suspension and I feel there’s a difference on the 23’

 

[STi_to_GRzupra]

BTW, Now I’m on BM3 stg1 93, will change it to stg2 eventually to compare.

I have drove it on stg1 only yesterday, so let’s see how the clutch holds up.

Current mods beside BM3 are AA catted DP, charge pipes, and K&N panel filter with intake silencer delete.

 

[FuzzyRev]

Are the dampers on the 20-21 different than the 23’?

I have driven two 2021 with stock suspension and I feel there’s a difference on the 23’

Yes. The dampers themselves are different parts from 2020, and 2021-22, and the AVS has been reprogrammed with each revision as well. Technically, the 23 is version 3.0 of everything.

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