Toyota FT-Se Concept

[KahnBB6]

That's the Se under the covers. You can see how the tail lights even pop up from the head shot.

I see that, yes. And in addition I like how they're showcasing the 1998-2005 Altezza RS200 sedan in this episode. This would fall right into line with the rumors that a four-door variant of the GR86 is in the works... since it is being based off the current (and soon to be outgoing) RWD Lexus IS platform.

That either suggests that the GR86 two door coupe will be no more... or if it will remain as a variant of that chassis then Toyota may be also planning a successor to the RWD Altezza sport sedan as yet another product in the GR model line. Akio Toyoda or some other GR representative did let slip many months ago a question as to whether fans would like to see GR do a sport sedan. So far there are some signs that may be a real possibility to add to the lineup.

I would bet on seeing whatever comes from that engineering exercise in production form a bit before we see any kind of MR2/FT-Se go on sale.

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[R1Outcast]

I've been seeing more and more articles/videos on the new MR2, and it just has me asking questions. If it really has 600+ hp, it will be nearly twice that of the Supra. Will we get an 800+ hp Supra to compensate, or are the 600hp predictions just way off? Will the Supra be discontinued as the flagship sportscar, and replaced by the MR2?

So many questions. Anyone else have insight/thoughts on this?

 

[Syeeee]

Toyota and 600hp? Never.

Random hps #s been throwing out and awd?

https://driving.ca/auto-news/news/2025-toyota-mr2-rumour-400-hp

https://www.carscoops.com/2024/09/n...-mr2-will-arrive-in-2026-with-400-hp-and-awd/

 

[Kujiwara]

I don't see an MR2 happening, sure there was a Mid engine concept car not too long ago but the issue is Akio isn't the head of Toyota anymore, so even if he and the GR team gives the green light, Toyota still has to approve it. And with them really behind the curve on EVs, despite manufactures shifting away from fully committing on EVs, every manufacturer still need some investment into EVs, and Toyota still has to do that. BZ4X is a disaster with the Subaru collaboration and I wouldn't be surprised if Toyota/Subaru partnership begin fading away. This means I personally believe in more that a new GR86 using the 3 cyl turbo is more likely to happen.

The other consideration is that the Supra is actually a close competitor to the 718 upto the GTS trim level in terms of performance, some do cross shop between 718 (especially S) and Supra despite the price gap (myself included). MR2 would have to fit below the Supra, so altho it has MR layout, it would likely not able to match the performance of most 718s, maybe the match base 718? But a GR86 already sort of match the performance of a base 718. GR86 is performing too high (compared to back in the day AE111) for a MR2 to fit in easily these days.

But that being said, if the MR2 is an EV, it could be a more likely to happen, and that would match the 718 going EV. And would have minimal effect on GR86 and Supra sales.

 

[XtremeMaC]

There is no reason for a company like Toyota to be putting 500+hp to any of their cars unless like new M5, it comes with 900kg of hybrid system and you need extra horses to make up for the weight. The fact is no one is paying 80k+ for a Toyota sports car unless they're doing something radical, which in today's conditions is not happening... At least not with Supra quantities.
https://www.motortrend.com/features/500-hp-cars/


With all rumors I suppose it'll be a hybrid.

 

[GRMan]

I don't see an MR2 happening, sure there was a Mid engine concept car not too long ago but the issue is Akio isn't the head of Toyota anymore, so even if he and the GR team gives the green light, Toyota still has to approve it. And with them really behind the curve on EVs, despite manufactures shifting away from fully committing on EVs, every manufacturer still need some investment into EVs, and Toyota still has to do that. BZ4X is a disaster with the Subaru collaboration and I wouldn't be surprised if Toyota/Subaru partnership begin fading away. This means I personally believe in more that a new GR86 using the 3 cyl turbo is more likely to happen.

The other consideration is that the Supra is actually a close competitor to the 718 upto the GTS trim level in terms of performance, some do cross shop between 718 (especially S) and Supra despite the price gap (myself included). MR2 would have to fit below the Supra, so altho it has MR layout, it would likely not able to match the performance of most 718s, maybe the match base 718? But a GR86 already sort of match the performance of a base 718. GR86 is performing too high (compared to back in the day AE111) for a MR2 to fit in easily these days.

But that being said, if the MR2 is an EV, it could be a more likely to happen, and that would match the 718 going EV. And would have minimal effect on GR86 and Supra sales.

Akio is the current Chairman of the board. It’s him and his board of directors that approves car projects and then the CEO is delegated the authority to make it happen.

It’s the same with BMW, the board approves projects and approves the amount of asset allocations to a project.

It was Akio (god bless) that pushed for manual transmissions to be on all the GR performance cars (Supra, Corolla, Yaris, 86). You won’t understand the amount of pull he has unless you understand the inner workings and the culture of a Japanese company. If you use the western lens of company governance (where CEO has highest authority) to guage his authority then you will be mistaken. His grandfather started the company and this lineage gives him the power and the support (from other directors of the boatd) to steer the company in a direction that he sees fit.

The GR lineup is currently a successful business model to Toyota so we should see more exciting projects incoming..

 

[Rob_SER]

My guess is the MR2 will take the place of the Supra when it goes out of production.

Best car has confirmed it and they are almost always right... They also confirmed it's going to be an all new 2.0T engine from Toyota that should have a very low center of gravity and be very compact.

My main worry si that they are talking about it being AWD. The GR-Four AWD is not suited for track use in its current state, it does not hold up in the GR Corolla...

 

[goodday]

600hp seems way too high for toyota.

 

[DR.COKE]

Caymans are so priced out since covid that You can’t get a new base Model with no extra under 80k Today. I remember msrp around 55k Before Covid with steep discount.
MR2 would be perfect around 300HP mid enigine, minimal tech, light weight for under 50k. There is no competition and would be the cheapest by a land slide to get into a mid engine car with low HP. For bigger pockets or HP theres always the cayman GTS/ C8 Vetts and bigger pockets gets into exotics of Ferrari, Mercedes, Lambos.
what we need is a cheap mid engine car in this market. I want and I can’t afford mid engine car over 100k. under 50K is in range of a lot of us broke enthusiast Including myself. Yes I would trade my 3.0 Supra and downgrade in power for the mid-engine life.

 

[Mayday]

My guess would be that the new MR2 is going to get their new 2.0L 4 cylinder 395hp turbocharged engine, which is still under development and testing as Toyota said. While GR86 would get a facelift in 2026 and use G16E-GTS turbocharged engine which they are currently using it on GR Corolla & GR Yaris.

 

[66joeyn]

My guess is the MR2 will take the place of the Supra when it goes out of production.

Best car has confirmed it and they are almost always right... They also confirmed it's going to be an all new 2.0T engine from Toyota that should have a very low center of gravity and be very compact.

My main worry si that they are talking about it being AWD. The GR-Four AWD is not suited for track use in its current state, it does not hold up in the GR Corolla...

As a Supra owner, I agree with this and it makes the most sense. This would be a great very car if all was true.

 

[R1Outcast]

My guess would be that the new MR2 is going to get their new 2.0L 4 cylinder 395hp turbocharged engine, which is still under development and testing as Toyota said. While GR86 would get a facelift in 2026 and use G16E-GTS turbocharged engine which they are currently using it on GR Corolla & GR Yaris.

That would be cool, but it still has me asking the question: What happens to the Supra if the MR2 is given more hp than the Supra?

I wouldn't argue against a 500hp+ Supra, but at that point, it seems like the Toyota (GR) lineup would be saturated. Supra, MR2, Corolla/Yaris, 86. Their performance models seem to overlap too much.

 

[XtremeMaC]

What about the statement from Toyota AUS that Supra will continue onwards still produced at Magna

 

[gor134]

What about the statement from Toyota AUS that Supra will continue onwards still produced at Magna

You're taking this way out of context. The interview stated that the Supra brand will continue. Not the production at Magna.

 

[gor134]

I think the concept was always intended to be a replacement for the Supra so not surprised that for now Supra may rest while the MR2 takes over.

I mean, why did the sketches use the A90 wheels, that was suspicious to me.

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