Islindur
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Will be way faster than 86, obviously.I'm interested in see how this will compared with the upcoming GR86.
That built N/A to 250hp in a 1250kg can be something on the other hand.
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Will be way faster than 86, obviously.I'm interested in see how this will compared with the upcoming GR86.
Thats... quite fast for a 2.0 honestly. Seems 2.0 is quite capable despite having much lower power.
Yeah I was thinking the same thing. That's a really quick time.Thats... quite fast for a 2.0 honestly. Seems 2.0 is quite capable despite having much lower power.
The Four-Cylinder Supra Is Just OK
Few cars have caused me as much inner conflict as the new Supra. Itās so cool that this nameplate is back! Bummer itās not an original Toyota product.
It looks incredible on the street! Shame itās not exceptional to drive.
Now thereās a less-expensive model, with a smaller engine, and Iāll tell you what: Itās alright.
(Full disclosure: Toyota loaned me a 2021 yellow four-cylinder Supra for a week to road test and an 2020 six-cylinder model. I have not driven the revised and significantly more powerful 2021 six-cylinder 3.0 model.)
I have a special love for ā90s tuner cars, of which the previous (fourth generation) Supra is a legend. Iām not going to waste any time harping on that because itās been rehashed over and over.
So letās just say youāre a driving enthusiast (welcome!) thinking about getting a new sports car (sounds like fun), scratching your head at a Toyota store (letās do it.)
For about $30,000 you could be into an 86. This dumb name is attached to a pretty great car with a 205-horsepower engine, rear-wheel drive, a three-pedal manual trans and even a rear seat adequate for shuttling small children in a pinch. (Itās 200 HP if you choose the automatic transmission.)
The 86ās biggest downside is unavoidably connected to what makes it great: The lack of insulation, vital to its light weight and fun demeanor also makes it noisy. The carās not exactly cheap in dollar terms, but it feels it when you look around the cockpitās slabby expanses and low-rez displays.
Stepping up to a Supra solves a lot of those livability weaknesses, though the suspension is set pretty tight and the ride is on the harsh side. Both the four- and six-cylinder Supras feel significantly more refined than even the nicer GT trim 86, though. In spite of its wild body styling, the Supra feels like a much more adult automotive choice, with a downright plush interior and quieter cockpit.
Youāre looking at about $45,000 for a four-cylinder 2.0 model (the two-liter engine, 255 HP); a nicely equipped six-cylinder 3.0 (yep, three-liter) is more like $55,000. But you end up giving up more than money for the tradeoffs compared with an 86. Simply put: The Supras Iāve driven just donāt have as much flavor as Toyotaās considerably cheaper manual-shift sports car, despite of their significant HP advantage.
So, why is the Supra, a cooler-looking performance car with more power, less fun to drive than its slower little sister?
You donāt need a comprehensive track test to figure this one out. The new Supra is a modern luxury car with a very stylish sports car body. The 86 is a competent execution of a classic formula: Manual shift, rear-drive, low curb weight.
Sports cars arenāt complicated. If nostalgia is what youāre sniffing for a hit of, the 86 is the car you want. The Supra may have the classic emblem but the 86 (aka FR-S; BRZ; GT86) is the closest thing to a great ā90s tuner car you can buy new right now. Well, that and Nissanās 370Z. But weāre talking Toyotas today.
The fact that I set out to write about the 2021 Toyota Supra 2.0 and have spent most of this blog yapping about other cars should tell you something, but I donāt mean to dismiss the Supra.
The Supra 2.0 is really cool looking, gets a lot of attention from onlookers, feels plenty satisfying when you step on the gas and it most certainly does not feel slow. I already mentioned that itās pretty comfortable to sit in, which becomes increasingly valuable with every minute you spend in it.
Thereās not a lot going on inside the Supra, in terms of design or accessories. I donāt mind simplicity. In fact, Iād say Iām a fan. But the energy I got from a lot of the elements inside this car was more āblandā than ālean.ā Itās a sea of blackness. Even the gauge cluster, which has the tachometer featured prominently ā something I love ā seems to hide information in an effort to put minimal color on any interior surface.
That big chunk of plastic in the bottom steering wheel spoke really bothers me, too. It makes the carās main control look like a cheap toy.
As a sports car, a driverās car, it left me a little unsatisfied. The bottom line is that Supra 2.0 just felt too numb to thrash and a touch too stiff luxuriate in. Frankly, I had the exact same problem in the 2020 six-cylinder car I drove. If your tastes differ, I could understand falling in love with the look and having enough fun with the novelty of a new Supra. Itās not for me, though. Which feels weird to write, as a huge fan of the exterior design.
I mean, come on. There are so many of fun lines on it:
For those who do get seduced by the Supra, I would suggest seriously considering the 255-horsepower 2.0 over the 382-HP 3.0. The less expensive carās got it where it counts: the name and the look. The acceleration is sufficient.
The last time I drove an in-line 6 Supra it made only 335 HP, and the bump for 2021 is pretty serious, but zoom isnāt what I thought the car was missing. Itās soul that the car still needs to find, regardless of which engine it has.
in Italy the difference btw the 3.0 model and the 2.0 it's huge (and this is the case in japan too i belive, and why they made a 260hp Version).A few countries do have a horsepower tax. It just usually comes down to a displacement tax.