Yet another oil thread

[Bundy]

The US is also the only region where 0w-20 is specified for the B58, everyone else gets 5w-30 I believe. It’s pretty obvious the 0w-20 recommendation is for US emissions reasons only, not for the health of the engine.

Not correct, 0W-20 is the only oil approved/used by dealerships in Europe and also what is recommended in the manual from Toyota Europe.
It is not solely a US emission thing.

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[Loco38SUP]

The B58 turbo consumes oil. The 2020s burn only a minimal amount but they do consume. If people check their oil level with an OBD app you will see the oil level move between oil change intervals.

The claim that they dont consume a drop of oil is BS. You can burn up to half of quart before the iDrive system detects it.

The 2021s consume more oil than the 2020s. I wouldn’t dare go 10k miles on the 6-port between oil changes.

If you’re tuned expect to consume more oil between intervals.

I would recommend changing the oil every 3-5K miles. People seem to love the 2 free oil changes that Toyota offers. I personally threw them in the trash and dont let the dealerships touch my car.

There is nothing wrong with using the GR 0w-20 oil but only if you’re not tuned, daily your car and dont see weather temps above 75’F. Otherwise use the Liqui moly 5w-30. Its a solid choice with plenty of oil analysis reports to prove it.

-RJM

 

[zrk]

The B58 turbo consumes oil. The 2020s burn only a minimal amount but they do consume. If people check their oil level with an OBD app you will see the oil level move between oil change intervals.

The claim that they dont consume a drop of oil is BS. You can burn up to half of quart before the iDrive system detects it.

The 2021s consume more oil than the 2020s. I wouldn’t dare go 10k miles on the 6-port between oil changes.

If you’re tuned expect to consume more oil between intervals.

I would recommend changing the oil every 3-5K miles. People seem to love the 2 free oil changes that Toyota offers. I personally threw them in the trash and dont let the dealerships touch my car.

There is nothing wrong with using the GR 0w-20 oil but only if you’re not tuned, daily your car and dont see weather temps above 75’F. Otherwise use the Liqui moly 5w-30. Its a solid choice with plenty of oil analysis reports to prove it.

-RJM

Yes this.

 

[jchadwell]

There is nothing wrong with using the GR 0w-20 oil but only if you’re not tuned, daily your car and dont see weather temps above 75’F.

-RJM

Seems a bit over the top here? Only that one B58 owner in the Arctic Circle is safe! Pretty much every where else on the planet exceeds 75 degrees at least some times. I am not tuned but I do daily my car in temps that occasionally approach 100 degrees. I also run something like 15 autocrosses per season and run it full throttle quite often on the street (when no other traffic around). I'm using Castrol Edge 0W20 and not worried at all.

 

[32bitsofGil]

Funny I got a buddy just beginning his journey with oil consumption. I tried epxlaining the quirks of the oil level sensor and iDrive measuring but he has a thick skull.

I sure wish iDrive was just accurate, or more granular when showing your oil level. Whipping out my phone everytime to check is getting annoying. I also notice the "min recognized level" value floats a lot higher than the raw values do even when stopped and relatively cool. I am sitting around 85-86mm raw value but still reading 81mm in raw value.

 

[roadtripper]

I have a 2020 premium 3.0, I just changed oil and figured I would test the oil measurement system. I drained everything really well and replaced the oil filter. I then added 6 quarts of oil. Ran the car for 30 minutes and ran the oil quantity test. It showed full oil quantity, Being short .9 quarts I figured it would say I am low or at least below full. For reference I had the brake recall reprogramming done and the car was level. Anyone else see this? Should I add the .9 quart?

 

[32bitsofGil]

I have a 2020 premium 3.0, I just changed oil and figured I would test the oil measurement system. I drained everything really well and replaced the oil filter. I then added 6 quarts of oil. Ran the car for 30 minutes and ran the oil quantity test. It showed full oil quantity, Being short .9 quarts I figured it would say I am low or at least below full. For reference I had the brake recall reprogramming done and the car was level. Anyone else see this? Should I add the .9 quart?

The iDrive system doesn’t register you are actually low until you are greater than 0.75qts burned .

I suggest using a MHD or OBd adapter to measure the value coming from you sensor. See “oil level analysis with ecutek” thread for more information about how to make sense of your raw oil level values.

 

[roadtripper]

The iDrive system doesn’t register you are actually low until you are greater than 0.75qts burned .

I suggest using a MHD or OBd adapter to measure the value coming from you sensor. See “oil level analysis with ecutek” thread for more information about how to make sense of your raw oil level values.

Thanks for the good info! I'll go add my missing .9 quart too.

 

[FLtrackdays]

Full kit for our cars:
https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/bmw-oil-change-kit-5w-30-liqui-moly-11428583898-lm

I just used this site/link. Thanks!!!! Only 1200 miles but rather have it on hand.

 

[slicknickthequick]

Maybe pertinent to this thread.. Just changed my oil (liquid moly 0w-20)... However my sticking point was how to get the dang car off the ground easily. Well, I went and bought these ramps off of amazon and they worked like a champ. They have the slight incline so that the car didn't bottom out on, and raised the car about 5.5-ish inches up which was plenty of room to get under and do my thing. Passing along in case anyone else was looking for a ramp solution:

https://www.amazon.com/BISupply-Veh...intenance,+2+Pack&qid=1671474343&s=automotive

 

[FLtrackdays]

Maybe pertinent to this thread.. Just changed my oil (liquid moly 0w-20)... However my sticking point was how to get the dang car off the ground easily. Well, I went and bought these ramps off of amazon and they worked like a champ. They have the slight incline so that the car didn't bottom out on, and raised the car about 5.5-ish inches up which was plenty of room to get under and do my thing. Passing along in case anyone else was looking for a ramp solution:

https://www.amazon.com/BISupply-Vehicle-Service-Ramp-Set/dp/B07NLJVZ2D/ref=sr_1_2?crid=ABBL66HD8BPW&keywords=BISupply+Vehicle+Service+Ramp+Set+–+6.6in+Car+Lift,+5+Ton+Heavy+Duty+Truck+Ramps+for+Vehicle+Maintenance,+2+Pack&qid=1671474343&s=automotive

Love race ramps! They are a must for any lowered car. Hell, if I ever start working on my car again, I'd get one of those auto lifts. And even those I hear you need ramps to get em started ?‍

 

[kaj]

Do the oil change at least as often as the manufacturer recommends. If you feel like doing it sooner, do it sooner. If you're really serious, take samples to send to Blackstone. Results will give you your best indication of when to change your oil.

 

[RGlbk1]

I know oil change threads have been posted thousands of times, but I’ve read through almost all of them and couldn’t come to a definitive decision on oil changes after the break-in period.

Dealer is saying 10k miles for the first change, which doesn’t sound safe at all. I’ve seen answers for 1200 miles change, 5000 miles, 7500 miles.

Just wondering if there’s any new information regarding the first few changes
And how does Toyotacare come into play regarding early oil changes at the dealership?

 

[RGlbk1]

I know oil change threads have been posted thousands of times, but I’ve read through almost all of them and couldn’t come to a definitive decision on oil changes after the break-in period.

Dealer is saying 10k miles for the first change, which doesn’t sound safe at all. I’ve seen answers for 1200 miles change, 5000 miles, 7500 miles.

Just wondering if there’s any new information regarding the first few changes
And how does Toyotacare come into play regarding early oil changes at the dealership?

I am going to change and dump the factory oil at about 800 -1000 miles. Most of the engine break-in wear metals and ring seating should be almost complete and this will also remove factory assembly lubes, silicone sealants, and other contaminants that can damage the engine if they remain in there longer. Will fill with BMW LL-17 FE 0w-20 and drive for 2000 miles. After that I am planning on using a 5w-30 oil because I don’t really care about the USA’s mpg requirements, I think it’s called CAFE. I care about engine longevity and so I will be using the right oil, the right weight, and the right anti wear additive package, along with the right OCI, most likely around 5000 miles or yearly.

 

[razorlab]

Did you really need to bump this 3 year old thread. You already posting in 2-4 of the OTHER oil threads wasn't enough?

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