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Sub-MkV

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Jason explains why I love Supra design more.

Mk5 Supra has a brutal aggressive beauty

and

The Z is more elegant and simple beauty

I've always loved aggressive styled sports cars over the more simplistic and elegant ones that's why the Lamborghini Countach and Ferrari F40 was the first cars I ever fell in love with when I was 5 years old(I'm 37). Many people love the Jaguar E type looks but I was never impressed with its softer, bulbous and elegant design. I find it ok but not ugly. It never excited me like the Lambo and Ferrari.
 

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Someone from the other forum reckons new tires would close the gap by 2seconds.
The blind faith is amazing at this point, a lot of Z friends have now moved on to that the Nismo will come with 100+ extra hp, the 6 pot GTR brakes, aero, suspension, and probably bad tires still.
 

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Got to see a new stock Z performance in blue at Formula Drift and the car looks vastly better in person.
 

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Got to see a new stock Z performance in blue at Formula Drift and the car looks vastly better in person.
That's a very good thing. I'm not sure it's even possible to look worse IMO... and that's coming from someone who's plenty "camera ugly" himself. ;)
 

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I'm still not a fan, I love the Z32 but this car looks like a mishmash of Z cars. But, it does look much better in person. Still wouldn't buy one though, but to each his own.
 

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Someone from the other forum reckons new tires would close the gap by 2seconds.
The blind faith is amazing at this point, a lot of Z friends have now moved on to that the Nismo will come with 100+ extra hp, the 6 pot GTR brakes, aero, suspension, and probably bad tires still.
Lmao, watch the Z become even slower on Michelin PSS tires. I really like how these blind idiots keep using or thinking that the stock Brigestone S007 tires are holding the Z back, when the real problem with the Z is its chassis can't handle the weight and power of this TT V6.
 

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Someone from the other forum reckons new tires would close the gap by 2seconds.
The blind faith is amazing at this point, a lot of Z friends have now moved on to that the Nismo will come with 100+ extra hp, the 6 pot GTR brakes, aero, suspension, and probably bad tires still.
I'm not impressed with the performance of the new Z (too heavy - hell, I think the Supra is too heavy), but depending on the track, 2sec is well within the realm of possibility when going from something like the shitty tires Nissan put on the Z to something like a Pilot Cup 2.
 

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I'm not impressed with the performance of the new Z (too heavy - hell, I think the Supra is too heavy), but depending on the track, 2sec is well within the realm of possibility when going from something like the shitty tires Nissan put in the Z to something like a Pilot Cup 2.
Sorry, I should elaborate. Sure 2 secs can be gained with some serious tires like the Cup 2, etc. They were saying comparable tires to the Supra. E.g. Pilot Sports.
 

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I'm not impressed with the performance of the new Z (too heavy - hell, I think the Supra is too heavy), but depending on the track, 2sec is well within the realm of possibility when going from something like the shitty tires Nissan put in the Z to something like a Pilot Cup 2.
This is Streets of Willow. It’s a small track, and 3 seconds is getting spanked. Supra’s crossing the finish when the Z’s still on the turns just past the chicane. Tires won’t change that.
 

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30% of the members on that site need to retake most of high school. They are clueless about how the world and collaboration in the auto industry works. The Z is the epitome of how far down Nissan has gone as a company. The tech and chassis alone show how OVERPRICED that pig of a car is. It Flops around on that track like a dying fish. Probst was visibly restrained in the Supra lol. Sorry Zforum that car is a pig with horrid lipstick.
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