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Been in dealerships from age 16. A PDI test drive is a short as a tech can make it. They got better things to do.
 
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Been in dealerships from age 16. A PDI test drive is a short as a tech can make it. They got better things to do.
Yeah there is no reason they had to add additional 77 miles to the odometer for a PDI test drive. The odometer had 10 miles stated on the odometer disclosure statement.
 

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Good on you , that is unacceptable
When I got mine, I flew from California to oregon during COVID since they sold it to me with zero mamrkup. Requested no front plate drilled and no wash. Even asked to leave the shipping sticker and wrap on the car. Delivered to my hands with the keys and ppw all completed for my drive home with 16 miles on the trip odometer. Here's me after I went and got some lunch and about to leave for me drive back to California.

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Since no PDI, did you remove the shipping blocks?
 

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Wouldn't be too concerned about the ride, more like concerned on how they are handling your vehicle when you're not there: Are they launching? Rough handling the car, blah, blah, blah, that sort of stuff.
Ok.......... you got me on this one. I can't tell if this is an AI post or not.
 
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op: 8 miles on mine

don't trust them............ they launched it and did burnouts n shit
Yeah. I cancelled the sale and filed a complaint with Toyota North America. My auto loan has to be refunded but I'm still liable for the per diem interest. Such a waste of time that I am back to hating all cars now... Hopefully I'll get my love of automobiles back soon.
 

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Disappointing story, OP, but thanks for sharing.

Why treat a customer this way? Doesn’t matter if it’s a Supra, a Ferrari, or a Kia.
 

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I remember the online video of the guy loading FocusRS mk3s onto the boat in Germany doing high speed sliding donuts on the large slushy gravel holding yard area. Nice for the new owner thats ordered and waited for it for a year. He got sacked from what I remember.
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My 2023 6MT was delivered I think with 9 miles on it.

Pre delivery mileage on the car doesn't automatically in and of itself mean abuse, and I don't have the PDI/PDE information on hand but one should be able to find it pretty easily with a google search. If memory serves, there isn't a whole lot of driving involved in getting the car ready for sale.

Most of the PDE/PDI steps largely consist of removing the protective material, inputting dealer information into the infotainment, removing the shipping spacers, running through some steps in Toyota ISTA, and activating the navigation, which to be fair can take a day or two for the key to be sent electronically from Germany, but you don't need to physically drive the car for that.

Could there be some outlying condition? Anything is technically possible, but I'd say that would be an exception and not a rule. This is all moot at this point because you cancelled the sale, but I'd be curious as to how they would have tried to justify the amount of miles on the car. I'd also be concerned if they followed the break in instructions properly; If I recall correctly the manual specifies no full load acceleration and no high RPM operation for 750 miles or so?

Likely not the biggest deal breaker either, but for a car I'm spending $60,000 on, I'm going to treat it appropriately.

Edit: Dealers can surprisingly use the term "new" rather loosely in certain cases. I remember seeing a GR:Corolla being sold as "new" when it had around 4,000 miles on it.
 

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Sucks to feel like cancelling the sale, but totally understand you doing it. I might have as well.

6.8mi on my car when I got it, with no nav or other issues, for what it's worth.
 
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My 2023 6MT was delivered I think with 9 miles on it.

Pre delivery mileage on the car doesn't automatically in and of itself mean abuse, and I don't have the PDI/PDE information on hand but one should be able to find it pretty easily with a google search. If memory serves, there isn't a whole lot of driving involved in getting the car ready for sale.

Most of the PDE/PDI steps largely consist of removing the protective material, inputting dealer information into the infotainment, removing the shipping spacers, running through some steps in Toyota ISTA, and activating the navigation, which to be fair can take a day or two for the key to be sent electronically from Germany, but you don't need to physically drive the car for that.

Could there be some outlying condition? Anything is technically possible, but I'd say that would be an exception and not a rule. This is all moot at this point because you cancelled the sale, but I'd be curious as to how they would have tried to justify the amount of miles on the car. I'd also be concerned if they followed the break in instructions properly; If I recall correctly the manual specifies no full load acceleration and no high RPM operation for 750 miles or so?

Likely not the biggest deal breaker either, but for a car I'm spending $60,000 on, I'm going to treat it appropriately.

Edit: Dealers can surprisingly use the term "new" rather loosely in certain cases. I remember seeing a GR:Corolla being sold as "new" when it had around 4,000 miles on it.
What pissed me off the most is that I requested the sales consultant to not let the tech drive it and he replied stating that the tech is already doing his highway loop. They had the check from the bank already and I took out insurance on the car. He did not care.
 

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I have a feeling this tech drive thing was a lie to cover up that they'd already put the miles on it for some reason or another and didn't want to own up to it.
 

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If I recall correctly the manual specifies no full load acceleration and no high RPM operation for 750 miles or so?
The break-in requirement is for 1200 miles. Max engine speed is 4500 rpm and steady highway speeds are no-nos.
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