Nissan Z vs Toyota Supra

[Sub-MkV]

Jason explains why I love Supra design more.

Mk5 Supra has a brutal aggressive beauty

and

The Z is more elegant and simple beauty

I've always loved aggressive styled sports cars over the more simplistic and elegant ones that's why the Lamborghini Countach and Ferrari F40 was the first cars I ever fell in love with when I was 5 years old(I'm 37). Many people love the Jaguar E type looks but I was never impressed with its softer, bulbous and elegant design. I find it ok but not ugly. It never excited me like the Lambo and Ferrari.

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[JoeDaMechanic]

Someone from the other forum reckons new tires would close the gap by 2seconds.
The blind faith is amazing at this point, a lot of Z friends have now moved on to that the Nismo will come with 100+ extra hp, the 6 pot GTR brakes, aero, suspension, and probably bad tires still.

 

[MLG Tofu Shop]

Someone from the other forum reckons new tires would close the gap by 2seconds.
The blind faith is amazing at this point, a lot of Z friends have now moved on to that the Nismo will come with 100+ extra hp, the 6 pot GTR brakes, aero, suspension, and probably bad tires still.

Lmao, watch the Z become even slower on Michelin PSS tires. I really like how these blind idiots keep using or thinking that the stock Brigestone S007 tires are holding the Z back, when the real problem with the Z is its chassis can't handle the weight and power of this TT V6.

 

[underdonk]

Someone from the other forum reckons new tires would close the gap by 2seconds.
The blind faith is amazing at this point, a lot of Z friends have now moved on to that the Nismo will come with 100+ extra hp, the 6 pot GTR brakes, aero, suspension, and probably bad tires still.

I'm not impressed with the performance of the new Z (too heavy - hell, I think the Supra is too heavy), but depending on the track, 2sec is well within the realm of possibility when going from something like the shitty tires Nissan put on the Z to something like a Pilot Cup 2.

 

[JoeDaMechanic]

I'm not impressed with the performance of the new Z (too heavy - hell, I think the Supra is too heavy), but depending on the track, 2sec is well within the realm of possibility when going from something like the shitty tires Nissan put in the Z to something like a Pilot Cup 2.

Sorry, I should elaborate. Sure 2 secs can be gained with some serious tires like the Cup 2, etc. They were saying comparable tires to the Supra. E.g. Pilot Sports.

 

[mark5ive_]

I'm not impressed with the performance of the new Z (too heavy - hell, I think the Supra is too heavy), but depending on the track, 2sec is well within the realm of possibility when going from something like the shitty tires Nissan put in the Z to something like a Pilot Cup 2.

This is Streets of Willow. It’s a small track, and 3 seconds is getting spanked. Supra’s crossing the finish when the Z’s still on the turns just past the chicane. Tires won’t change that.

 

[Bundy]

"The Supra was better everywhere"
Mic drop.

 

[RenRed2]

I love the many excuses I see

https://www.nissanzclub.com/forum/t...ta-volester-n-and-f-pace-svr.1248/#post-35929

30% of the members on that site need to retake most of high school. They are clueless about how the world and collaboration in the auto industry works. The Z is the epitome of how far down Nissan has gone as a company. The tech and chassis alone show how OVERPRICED that pig of a car is. It Flops around on that track like a dying fish. Probst was visibly restrained in the Supra lol. Sorry Zforum that car is a pig with horrid lipstick.

 

[JoeDaMechanic]

30% of the members on that site need to retake most of high school. They are clueless about how the world and collaboration in the auto industry works. The Z is the epitome of how far down Nissan has gone as a company. The tech and chassis alone show how OVERPRICED that pig of a car is. It Flops around on that track like a dying fish. Probst was visibly restrained in the Supra lol. Sorry Zforum that car is a pig with horrid lipstick.

But it does make for great morning reading and a good laugh.

The latest gem that brought a smile to my face. In the video they say there's no one smoking gun where the Z lost to the Supra, it lost in braking, cornering, and acceleration and they're in different leagues. Someone comes up with this gem,
'Or wait for Laguna Seca, that's the real yardstick, much better longer track for better evaluation.'

So it doesn't stop faster, it doesn't go around corners faster, and it's not faster in a straight line. What magic are they expecting to happen on a longer track?

 

[dzeleski]

This is all I needed to see. Its the same crap chassis that its always been. The internet will continue to hate the Supra, honestly its part of the reason I like the car so much.

2 seconds around this track is a decade for two cars that are in the same "class". I really do hope someone puts PSS on the Z and does like for like. Itll be even worse.

 

[Blackbeard]

lets be honest here there alot of hate on both ends

 

[dzeleski]

lets be honest here there alot of hate on both ends

If we are completely honest though its generally provoked from one side to start with. The number of people that come up to me and say "Yo, you know thats a BMW right?" is quite a high number. When I drive the car often it happens at least once a week. Most of the time the people saying this are looking for confrontation, sometimes they say it with a smile on their face and are just playing into it.

The car causes a significant amount of people to come out of the wood works and say something negative to me about the car. Maybe its because I bought bright yellow, maybe its because NY is filled with a bunch of fucking dick heads, not sure but I collect a serious amount of negative attention from just minding my own business. On the flip side there are a ton of people that have positive things to say about it as well but ive never owned something thats so polarizing lol

 

[Blackbeard]

If we are completely honest though its generally provoked from one side to start with. The number of people that come up to me and say "Yo, you know thats a BMW right?" is quite a high number. When I drive the car often it happens at least once a week. Most of the time the people saying this are looking for confrontation, sometimes they say it with a smile on their face and are just playing into it.

The car causes a significant amount of people to come out of the wood works and say something negative to me about the car. Maybe its because I bought bright yellow, maybe its because NY is filled with a bunch of fucking dick heads, not sure but I collect a serious amount of negative attention from just minding my own business. On the flip side there are a ton of people that have positive things to say about it as well but ive never owned something thats so polarizing lol

ive never had anyone tell me shit yet so lol. honestly i thought i would get this living here in miami but no , what an age we are in now that bmw is an insult lol

 

[RenRed2]

lets be honest here there alot of hate on both ends

As a former Z owner here in Germany, my 370 was interesting and drew attention. On the road it was fun and drove well. Sport brakes were weak and rotors died too quickly and faded fast. We kept it 3 years and enjoyed it. It simply lacked the enduring toughness even my M235i had and the 17 M2. The Z was good enough but lacked endurance and depth of quality stock.

I was very interested in the new Z as a former owner. It’s good to see new car. It’s just disappointing as a total package vs the package the Supra offers.

 

[Blackbeard]

As a former Z owner here in Germany, my 370 was interesting and drew attention. On the road it was fun and drove well. Sport brakes were weak and rotors died too quickly and faded fast. We kept it 3 years and enjoyed it. It simply lacked the enduring toughness even my M235i had and the 17 M2. The Z was good enough but lacked endurance and depth of quality stock.

I was very interested in the new Z as a former owner. It’s good to see new car. It’s just disappointing as a total package vs the package the Supra offers.

yea i was saying before pricing if the pref was priced in the high 49-50k there to much to cross shop in this area unless the reviews were blown out the water good , which we all saw how that went

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