Dannyvandelft
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No lol.
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ckijnguyen
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From what I heard from my dealership they are going to be offering the manual on the 2023 Supra and there’s a special edition as well but no pricing at this time.
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Some of the articles over this say that other markets will have an "RZ" trim level that will sport the manual transmission along with upgraded wheels to differentiate them from the automatics. Not sure what the US market will call their manual variant, but exciting to see it finally coming out for those that want the MT.
ayoh
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honestly its really not that hard to find a dealer that will sell at msrp. might take time and a bit of a drive but theres always someone thats down to make the sale. got my a91 for $1 less than msrp and ran across multiple other dealers willing to sell at MSRP. It may have been the first a91 in cali that had the factory spoiler installed. received in october 2020. Dont get me wrong though, 90% of the dealers i reached out to wanted 5-10k markup on it with no spoiler
puzzled
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You guys ever worry what parts availability is going to be like after buying an even more scarce MT Supra?
I've already decided to get another Supra in white and if I can have one in MT while keeping my ZF8, that would be superb.. but in this unprecedented times not sure how long parts are going to be available. Even if OEMs say they usually support 8-10 yrs.. who knows. 10 years from now most ICE based suppliers might be dead.
I've already decided to get another Supra in white and if I can have one in MT while keeping my ZF8, that would be superb.. but in this unprecedented times not sure how long parts are going to be available. Even if OEMs say they usually support 8-10 yrs.. who knows. 10 years from now most ICE based suppliers might be dead.
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Not to mention that chips and boards will become more scarce (in the short term at least) than they already were since Ukraine was a major refiner/exporter of neon gas to the US. Naturally, we don't make most of the chips here (sigh) but that will put a pinch on all fabs worldwide since the supply is constrained in general.
I wouldn't worry about ICE based suppliers disappearing overall though - very few companies are committed soley to ICE platforms... and regardless of new production - there will be millions of existing cars which will be profitable to support. There's companies which live entirely on producing replica replacement parts for cars from the early-to-mid 1900's.
On the other hand... 10 years from now who knows if we'll even be allowed to own any personal vehicles the way things are going. If the private-jet-traveling autocrats have anything to say about it, that is.
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I think a lot of people also forget the huge push for electric cars is coming from developed countries. without a doubt there will be demand for ICE parts/components in parts of the world for decades to come.
Cptnslo
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Parts will be a pain in the ass to get. I’m currently waiting on a central vanos bolt for my exhaust camshaft. Just the bolt itself and it’s been on back order for a month and just got updated today to not being available until April. Keep in mind that’s just a SINGLE bolt. I could go out to my machine shop and make the dam thing on a lathe but I’m forced to wait. I can’t imagine what it’ll will be like for more complex parts.
no wonder insurance has started totaling cars out that are actually cheaper to repair simply because of the difficulty of getting parts.
no wonder insurance has started totaling cars out that are actually cheaper to repair simply because of the difficulty of getting parts.
supraboi
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I'm not sure BMW would even want to offer a manual in the Z4. They only sold two in all of Australia. ?
https://www.bmwblog.com/2021/07/19/...e-z4-manual-after-selling-2-units-in-2-years/
supraboi
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Yup, but based on that I don't think it's very likely. I'm going to go out on a limb here, but I think the audience for both cars seems to be very different. I have a feeling that a manual would be way more popular on the 3.0 Supra vs the Z4.
On a different note does anyone have break down of auto vs manual for the E89 Z4?
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